Hardcore = Easy Mode

[Roamer]

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Good luck trying to fire a salvo from the chopper and not killing team mates; from that high it's near impossible to tell friend from foe.

It is obvious that you don't play HC. In HC friendly troops have a colored triangle above their heads. The only time I've tk'd anyone from the helo was when I was trying to hit enemies that are close to a friendly position.

[CptainCrunch]

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So what you're saying Crunch is that there should be a softcore mode. You know, kinda like what cinemax is compared to porn

LOL, Yeah, more porn, I mean options. I can't find the thread now, but back in the CoD forums is a posting about what would make a good hardcore mode and it seemed that all the hardcore players really wanted Regular mode with a few things turned off, not everything. If I could find that thread, it would better explain what would make a good hardcore setup.

I like the BC2 hardcore setup, but some of it seems a little "broken" (For lack of a better term). It just doesnt act like I would think hardcore mode should act. I dont think Regular mode with just less health or regen turned off is really the answer, but something isnt quite right.

Or, maybe three modes wouldnt be bad. Regular mode, softcore (Regular mode with less health), hardcore.

Crunch

[Nicfurious29]

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So what you're saying Crunch is that there should be a softcore mode. You know, kinda like what cinemax is compared to porn

[CptainCrunch]

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We can probably argue about this issue ad infinitum and never convince one another. I'm glad they gave us the option to have it and we can each enjoy that which suits us best.

Exactly, thats why these threads never go anywhere. Its a matter of preference and FF and less health works both ways. In CoD I played hardcore because I thought regular mode was too easy. Im glad there is an option to switch it up and it not just be standard conquest.

I think as far as BC2 hardcore goes, it wouldnt hurt to have a few things turned on from regular mode.

Crunch

[Lordsethonan]

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Running through a friendly mortar barrage or up to the mcomm station as a friendly tank is bombarding it ruins the immersion of the game. FF forces teammates to be more judicious with their fire. Yeah, there are mistakes and friendlies are killed but guess what accounted for the most coalition deaths in the first Gulf War? That's right boys and girls, FF.

What's more, because the weapons have greater stopping power it is easier to drop an opponent but the reverse is also true, you can be more easily killed. You have to use cover more effectively.

Knife kills as a result of the increased weapons stopping power are harder to get, and as such more rewarding.

We can probably argue about this issue ad infinitum and never convince one another. I'm glad they gave us the option to have it and we can each enjoy that which suits us best.

And then again; you will run into people that think you'r emplaced machine gun dispenses candy; that your mortar strike will heal them, or just plain ignore the fact they walked in front of your tank (this one at least you can avoid) but not when you don't have the minimap and DONT KNOW you have people behind you; since you also don't get your health meter to tell if someone is repairing you or not.

Good luck trying to fire a salvo from the chopper and not killing team mates; from that high it's near impossible to tell friend from foe.

[Roamer]

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Running through a friendly mortar barrage or up to the mcomm station as a friendly tank is bombarding it ruins the immersion of the game. FF forces teammates to be more judicious with their fire. Yeah, there are mistakes and friendlies are killed but guess what accounted for the most coalition deaths in the first Gulf War? That's right boys and girls, FF.

What's more, because the weapons have greater stopping power it is easier to drop an opponent but the reverse is also true, you can be more easily killed. You have to use cover more effectively.

Knife kills as a result of the increased weapons stopping power are harder to get, and as such more rewarding.

We can probably argue about this issue ad infinitum and never convince one another. I'm glad they gave us the option to have it and we can each enjoy that which suits us best.

[CptainCrunch]

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This is entirely true. It's ok to get killed by a teammate's grenade, accidents happen; but when some tard on your team with bad nerves shoots you point blank for no reason, f that. FF would be fine if the punishment for a team kill would be substantially more than 15 points, with an option to punish as it was in 2142.

In my several accidental ventures to HC servers I haven't seen one decent player there. I don't think it's a coincidence.

Personally I prefer losing points to the punishment system just because of how much that was abused.

Just personal preference.

Crunch

[Derroth]

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FF on is a gauntlet of pain that makes you more wary of your own team than the enemy tbh

This is entirely true. It's ok to get killed by a teammate's grenade, accidents happen; but when some tard on your team with bad nerves shoots you point blank for no reason, f that. FF would be fine if the punishment for a team kill would be substantially more than 15 points, with an option to punish as it was in 2142.

In my several accidental ventures to HC servers I haven't seen one decent player there. I don't think it's a coincidence.

[CptainCrunch]

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FF on is a gauntlet of pain that makes you more wary of your own team than the enemy tbh

Yeah, I was playing last night and spawned behind a guy and I happened to be clicking on another kit and shot the dude up in the back,killing him. His friend killed me in turn. Then later on I was crouched in a corner as assault shooting people and the guy spawned on me and did the exact same thing I did. He was very apologetic after seeing how easy it can happen as he did not believe me before.

Crunch

[MrChris_CJ]

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FF on is a gauntlet of pain that makes you more wary of your own team than the enemy tbh

[FPS[SONIC]]

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I like the game as is. DICE added the so-called Hardcore option to compete with Call of Duty (TBH, as well as input from the community). One major difference is the maps are a hellava lot larger and if you don't know them, as I don't, then you are at a disadvantage. I think they came up with a very nice minimal HUD and I like the mechanics of the game. BTW - playing on a Hardcore server doesn't make one Hard Core. I have a feeling that many think this way. So, the game has some arcade-ish qualities -- I don't care. I play for the interaction and team work as it's so fun when you get a good "flow" going with 3 other players.

When it comes down to it, I just see it splitting the playerbase -- just like it did in CoD4.

[iQue]

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Having FF turned off is arcade BS akin to what most of you here say you hate about the game being a console port as having FF off is a common feature in most console games.

Sigh...

[Roamer]

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What's with all the freakin' Hardcore servers? It's really challenging trying to find a vanilla game. I want to play the way DICE designed it without any annoying customizations.

Um, Dice designed the HC mode of play for this game. The 'customizations' as you call them are options that servers choose to turn ON or OFF.

Having FF turned off is arcade BS akin to what most of you here say you hate about the game being a console port as having FF off is a common feature in most console games.

[TGL|Badlizzard]

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I just want a filter option so I don't have to see all the HC servers.

HC wouldn't be so bad if you could "know" how much ammo you have... if you want to pretend it isn't realistic to have it on screen, then I should be able to check my pockets for clips.

I didn't know you could still see the big map in HC, that would make it more tolerable at least. I hate not knowing which way to go for an objective.
But everytime I have played any game HC it is a camp fest, with some pansey with a silencer hiding in a bush waiting for people to run by. It's boring as hell.

I don't care if people want to play it, but there are so many HC servers now, by the time I sift through the server list, the ones I want are full.

I NEED A FILTER.

[Minmaster]

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i know huh, they should've gone with DICENet.