Game Balance Tweaks probably coming soon

[Vreki]

Re: Game Balance Tweaks probably coming soon

I honestly think the AA will see a nerf, I mean, it's 3 full hits to take down a chopper, as well as the fact you can knock it off course if you are lucky, it should defo have some downtime between bursts, since atm you can fire every other second... Makes flying choppers vs anyone who keeps using it impossible.

But isn't the AA bullets slow as molasses? I remember that being an issue in the Beta, you couldn't really hit anything unless you were an absolute expert.

To be honest, I don't think there is any game breaking balance issues. But it is annoying the 95% of a class uses the same weapon.

[[Expletive Deleted]]

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But isn't the AA bullets slow as molasses? I remember that being an issue in the Beta, you couldn't really hit anything unless you were an absolute expert.

This. If a chopper is moving at top speed a decent distance away, you have to aim forever in front of it. It's powerful, as it should be. It requires skill to hit, and rewards that skill. It's balanced with the chopper, as the gunner has just as much chance of killing the guy in AA, if not more. At least the guy in AA isn't moving, and is totally exposed. Any random sniper or other infantry/vehicle/UAV or whatever can also pick off the guy in that deathtrap.

[=MNKY=Frosty]

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I think we're playing with completely different anti-air :/, the bullets aren't exactly slow and the lead you have to give is hardly anything worthy of "skilled" shooting.

And my point was, if someone gets in the anti-air while you are targeting something else, or looking the otherway, you pretty much have no chance seeing as the chopper takes an eternity to turn around and by that time you've taken 75 damage and are a sitting duck while you home in for the kill

[imported_Kalo]

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So they're nerfing the Colt...why? If anything they should just make the rex have a better ROF and call it a day.

[samchoc]

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Oh here we go again, the whining kids win again. I barely ever use the M60. I use the MG36 mostly. I still say the M60 isn't overpowered. It runs out of ammo pretty quick and its not all that accurate in fully auto. It just hits like a horse. Balanced out by its constant reloading.

To tell you the truth I can't see anything wrong with any of those listed. If anything should be tweaked then ok just tweak the M60 down a little bit.


But let me tell you what's going to happen. The M60 and the other 2 will be made useless. Then people will use other things. Then the whiney kids will complain about the new most common choice and DICE will give in again and nerf that too. Eventually you will end up back at BF2 v1.3 where all weapons hit like ping pong balls and you are back to the stupid arcade spray and pray game that people hate.


The fact is. ALL weapons are "over powered" in the hands of someone who knows how to use them. Get over it, that's how it should be. Better players win. Bad players complain about it "not being fair".

You took those words out of my mouth !!
its all about strategy... most of the time those tubenoobs are so weak in other ways that it compensates.
I understand that it can be frustrating because ive had my shares of cursing and shouting hahaha
But for me frustration transforms itself into competition and i only get better at developing strategies for
every situations.

[DeThToLL]

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CG would be fine if people couldnt shoot it point blank and survive. Running at full speed with it out is kinda stupid in its own.

m60 is pretty retarded and anyone that has half decent aim knows it. The gun may take a little longer to reload, but it has 100 bullets and you can drop someone in 2 bursts if you don't get that random headshot that happens most of the time.

40mm isnt to bad, just cant stand seeing people chain shooting it from ammo boxes. Ive seen clans have 4 dudes in a corner with 4 ammo boxes all shooting them across the map. Team Killing comes into play here.

The above doesnt bother me as much as Mortar stikes and people using tanks to take down bomb buildings in seconds.

[pwrBY]

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Have any of the Battlefield 2142 veterans had any Déjà vu moments with the M60 sounding suspiciously like the Ganz as well as the high damage? Except for the overheating issue.

[Vreki]

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CG would be fine if people couldnt shoot it point blank and survive. Running at full speed with it out is kinda stupid in its own.

Ah, as a veteran super-noob-tuber I would like to correct a couple of misunderstandings, without getting into the overpowered or not discussion:
A) The Carl Gustav will kill you if you use it up close. I have a number of suicides due to that, or launching it upward without noticing an overhanging obstruction.
B) You do not run full speed with the CG. I use the 870 shotgun as my primary, and the speed difference when running is significant.

[DeThToLL]

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Ah, as a veteran super-noob-tuber I would like to correct a couple of misunderstandings, without getting into the overpowered or not discussion:
A) The Carl Gustav will kill you if you use it up close. I have a number of suicides due to that, or launching it upward without noticing an overhanging obstruction.
B) You do not run full speed with the CG. I use the 870 shotgun as my primary, and the speed difference when running is significant.

And i have a number of kills with and been killed by the CG enough to know that people still dont die point blank from it a majority of the time. My point about running was how fast you still can run while carrying an RPG type weapon on your shoulders.

[Minmaster]

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time to rack up some kills with the weapons before they get nerfed... i'm surprised CG is not on the list though.

[Vreki]

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time to rack up some kills with the weapons before they get nerfed... i'm surprised CG is not on the list though.

Well, how would you nerf it? It needs more splash to differentiate it from the RPG. Maybe an arming distance?

[=MNKY=Frosty]

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I think American and European playstyles are so different. Hardly anyone abuses the M2 when i play.

[FPS[SONIC]]

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I say, "Nerf the J-10 and the Talon!" Oh wait, DICE likes asymetrical warfare... because that's a nature of warfare in general. If you have an advantage, you use it. If you're at a disadvantage, your priorities change to defeat the enemies strength so that you can be victorious. Or lose.

I dislike after-release nerfing/buffing. IMO that's what the beta is for.

[Scinto]

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Demize99

Nothing in stats to suggest the lmgs as a whole are unbalanced #BFBC2

hmmm

[pwrBY]

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The LMG stats are only a tiny fraction below those of the ARs yet they have a higher mag capacity. I enjoyed the fact that LMGs would over-heat in some of the other Battlefield games after a sustained burst of fire since if the wielder was a lousy shot that would give the opposition a chance to mobilize to a different location in safety, but this is not the case nor is it quite so realistic.

pwrBY