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  • Kodakk
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3486

    #1

    My Review of BC2

    Well, despite being skeptical about purchasing Bad Company 2, I did buy it yesterday and played it for a few hours. Here are my thoughts.

    Graphics

    All I can say is, for the lag I get, the graphics are not that amazing. Being completely honest, I run games that look twice as good as Bad Company 2 extremely smoothly, while I only get about 30 fps in BC2. It's still playable, but for how it looks I really think it should run better - and yes, that's with all of the config tweaks. With that said, some aspects of the game do look extremely nice, especially explosions. Taking down the side of a building with an M203, even on low detail, still looks awesome. Finally, I really think that the maps are too shiny. I've turned bloom off, but the maps still seem to almost glow, and it is really unappealing sometimes.

    Map Design

    Maps are hit and miss. While I'm currently drawing a blank on the names, some are very well done, while others just seem like a complete mess. Furthermore, with the way the uncaps work, baserape is extremely common and easy. Other maps, however, offer players a variety of routes to a flag, and while the maps don't offer players the freedom that previous titles offered, it's not [always] Call of Duty-sized maps. In general, I absolutely hate the winter maps. To me they look terrible and lack color (White Pass being my main example) while the desert/urban maps looks much better.

    Gameplay

    Most of the time that I've spent playing has been spent with a couple of my Call of Duty 4 teammates, so we're extremely used to working with eachother. Being able to coordinate attacks on different flags and ensure that we're always stocked up on ammo and med kits is absolutely amazing. One thing I like about the game is that [without bandolier] players have very limited ammunition, so it requires cooperation to make sure that everybody is armed. While teamwork is encouraged, the squad system is very, very poor in my opinion. While players are rewarded an extra few points for attacking the targeted flag or resupplying/healing squadmates, the system just seems very shallow. If a player joins our squad before we can lock it we are unable to kick them, we can't put move markers, it just feels very basic coming from Battlefield 2 and 2142.

    Furthermore, the spotting system is hit and miss as well. It's nice to be able to quickly tap Q to spot an enemy, but sometimes it fails to spot. Also, I miss the comma-rose that players had in BF2, where you could call for ammo/repairs/etc. without having to search for a nearby player with the required kit. Speaking of which, what exactly is the point of the medic class having a health pack when there's regenerating health? Along with that, I wish that the game would turn black and white and/or blurry when you're incapacitated - rather than switching to another screen only to be revived. It's very awkward to be looking at the map when all of the sudden you're alive again - until you're completely dead, you should remain in your first person view.

    The infantry combat seems a bit clumsy, but that's not a complete negative. This allows you to get the full experience of moving from cover to cover as you try to spot and eliminate the enemy while not being immediately picked off. This might change a bit over time, but the weapons are much weaker than those that I'm used to in Call of Duty, which as I said is good and bad - bad when you put 4+ rounds into somebody only to have them run up and knife you.

    In general, I'm glad that the game promotes teamwork, especially with certain gadgets such as the tracer dart and recon drone. While I've never ban a fan of ranks and points, the rewards for repairing friendly vehicles and resupplying teammates are big enough to promote players to work as a team - even if it's not for the right reasons.

    Sound

    The sound is pretty mediocre. I'm not sure if it's BC2 not properly recognizing my surround sound headphones or if it's just me being spoiled with CoD4's impeccable sound, but I find it difficult to discern the direction of shots and vehicle sounds. Granted, I'm currently playing on headphone quality to improve my FPS, but even when I had it on Hifi and Home Cinema I really didn't notice much change.

    Vehicles

    I must say, I'm very impressed with the vehicles - at least most of them. The ATV's suspensions is absolutely amazing, and it's incredibly fun to drive around with a teammate on the back. The tanks and APC's feel powerful, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the cannons overheat. Unless you have a gun you're pretty much useless against infantry, and that seems absurd. As for the choppers, I had a chance to fly and gun with a teammate (The apache and it's counterpart for the OpFor) and I must say - the flying is absolute garbage. If anybody can help me invert the Y controls, please explain how - because it's ridiculous. The choppers feel extremely slow, clunky, and are terribly difficult to maneuver. While the cannon is quite powerful, it doesn't make up for the poor flying mechanics.

    Overall impressions

    Despite all my criticisms, the game is still extremely fun. Playing with a bunch of friends is very rewarding - to be assaulting a base and call out a sniper up top where a teammate decimates the wall is very entertaining. And while the server browser and punkbuster are complete fail, when you end up finding a good server the gameplay makes up for it. I give it an 8.5/10

    Some gameplay footage (sorry for the video kinda failing, I lag and my mic doesn't work when I record!)



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  • Vreki
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 4226

    #2
    Re: My Review of BC2

    Originally posted by Kodakk
    The sound is pretty mediocre. I'm not sure if it's BC2 not properly recognizing my surround sound headphones or if it's just me being spoiled with CoD4's impeccable sound, but I find it difficult to discern the direction of shots and vehicle sounds. Granted, I'm currently playing on headphone quality to improve my FPS, but even when I had it on Hifi and Home Cinema I really didn't notice much change.
    Make sure that your sound card isnt doing any fancy post-processing like EAX, and set SpeakerCount=6 in settings.ini when using 5.1

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    • Kodakk
      Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 3486

      #3
      Re: My Review of BC2

      Alright I'll check that out - will speakercount=6 decrease my FPS at all?

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      • Vreki
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 4226

        #4
        Re: My Review of BC2

        Originally posted by Kodakk
        Alright I'll check that out - will speakercount=6 decrease my FPS at all?
        Probably, but try it out. It is supposed to autodetect it, but that may not always work.

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        • imported_Fish
          Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 309

          #5
          Re: My Review of BC2

          are we talking about the same game? bad graphics, mediocre sound? apart from maybe Mw2 for gfx what other fps game do you run with better sound and gfx coz i wanna play them.

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          • Minmaster
            I DON'T PLAY CS!
            • Nov 2006
            • 4112

            #6
            Re: My Review of BC2

            hmm my config file says speakercount=0 but i still get 5.1 out of all my speakers when i choose home cinema. btw, my config file says sound quality is medium, but how does the game determine what to set this as? i don't believe it is selectable in game option area.

            as for performance, what's your renderaheadlimit? i set mine to 8 and i believe i got a noticeable boost. still i do feel some performance lag on my Q6600/8800GT.

            what is your system, kodakk?

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            • Kodakk
              Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 3486

              #7
              Re: My Review of BC2

              Originally posted by Fish
              are we talking about the same game? bad graphics, mediocre sound? apart from maybe Mw2 for gfx what other fps game do you run with better sound and gfx coz i wanna play them.
              Just Cause 2. Everything is so crisp, nothing is magically glowing, and I get amazing FPS. Honestly I think it looks much better than BC2. Call of Duty 4 has better sound, at least for me. I never said BC2 has bad graphics, I said that for the graphics it has it should run much better than it does.

              And minimaster, I'm on a gaming laptop (Asus G50vx). The processor is quite poor, but it has a GeForce GTX 260M w/ 1GB memory so that tends to make up for it.

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              • Nicfurious29
                Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 382

                #8
                Re: My Review of BC2

                Kodakk, your reveiw is very biased. I'm not saying that to insult you but it seems to me that you only reviewed certain aspects of the game and not the game in its entirety. Like for example its obvious you mostly if not only play conquest. You can't base Map design on one mode only.

                Also, graphics. Unless you state what your system specs are and you're running a pretty decent rig then you can't give a fair critique on the subject. I have no issues with graphics or performance. I also know lots of people with different systems that range from mid to high end that run the game flawlessly.

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                • Kodakk
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3486

                  #9
                  Re: My Review of BC2

                  I can judge the graphics as well as anybody else can - when I first started it up I ran it on medium/high, and it still didn't look absolutely stellar. My point was not "are the graphics amazing or not" - it's "for the quality of the graphics, the game should run much better than it does."

                  I have played rush, but I focused my review on conquest. Regardless, the gameplay I critiqued was not gametype-based, so I don't see the problem there. This is not a full review, it's just my first thoughts on the game, so nitpicking what I did and didn't look at is moot when the points I did make were not reliant on unmentioned aspects.

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                  • Vreki
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4226

                    #10
                    Re: My Review of BC2

                    Originally posted by Minmaster
                    hmm my config file says speakercount=0 but i still get 5.1 out of all my speakers when i choose home cinema.
                    I think "0" means auto.

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                    • iQue
                      Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 4925

                      #11
                      Re: My Review of BC2

                      Originally posted by Kodakk
                      Just Cause 2. Everything is so crisp, nothing is magically glowing, and I get amazing FPS. Honestly I think it looks much better than BC2.
                      ಠ_ಠ

                      Fair review I guess but I gotta admit I don't agree with much.

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                      • Lordsethonan
                        Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 834

                        #12
                        Re: My Review of BC2

                        Specially the sound part, and kodakk; this game is more processor intensive than graphics, you are not going to get a better sound with a dual core. For some odd reason, a lot of process for this game are reliant on yor processor, you could get away with an old video and sound card, and still get most of the nice stuff with good framerates.

                        And sincerely, I can't agree with you on the graphics side, specially with the viewing distance available; the level of detail for debris, smoke, dust; all the "little" details that most shooters forget, you get in BC2 so no, it's not just about the textures. I'm told it looks best on DX11 een tough it doesn't support tesselation at all, but textures look the way they should. You want horrible, try the console version; it's stuck to medium with textures on low.

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                        • imported_Kalo
                          Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 318

                          #13
                          Re: My Review of BC2

                          What he said about the brightness sure is true enough though.

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                          • CptainCrunch
                            I am the 1%
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 12976

                            #14
                            Re: My Review of BC2

                            Wow, you didnt like it? I am really shocked. /sarcasm

                            I am now using my "I told you so." card.

                            :wee:

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                            • sithdemon
                              Member
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 348

                              #15
                              Re: My Review of BC2

                              Originally posted by Kodakk
                              I can judge the graphics as well as anybody else can - when I first started it up I ran it on medium/high, and it still didn't look absolutely stellar. My point was not "are the graphics amazing or not" - it's "for the quality of the graphics, the game should run much better than it does."
                              Actually thats a very limited view of a game engine, by that logic it looks like Myst is still kicking *** all these years. MMOs are the best example, WoW looks horrible, even with the lich king update compared to Crysis. However it's understandable since a Crysis MMO would be impossible on a home computer, even a mad gaming rig. Call of duty smoke looks better then Crysis's to most people, except that in Call of duty its a 2d layer of multiple textures and Crysis's is a real 3D particle effects.

                              In Bad company I'd suspect it's has a lot to do with the destruction, I remeber the same thing when red faction when it first came out. It looked a bit worse then other FPSes of the day, but the destruction was a feature that taxed the computer.

                              Personally maxed out it's the next best looking game to Crysis, and some of the lighting looks better especially in DX11 which Crysis dosen't have. I have a ATI 5850 so I shouldn't have a issue, and I know alot of people with 8800 GTs, and ATI 4850s that are finally having to trim back on some settings, mostly medium, and were running Crysis maxed for the most part. So it's definitely a taxing game, but thats the price for increase complexity of the environment it self.

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