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  • Chris_Redfield
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 5986

    #16
    Re: why?

    Originally posted by Vreki
    I think so, but there will also be negative consequences, let us not forget that.
    God damn! Hahaha.

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    • Corvic
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 229

      #17
      Re: why?

      Originally posted by Vreki

      I think TheEliminator is using his local currency (WombatDollars).
      In the EU its €50, that around $70 (YankeeDollars)
      poor overseas folks =(

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      • groundedzero
        I AM THE EMBODIMENT OF /b/
        • Feb 2008
        • 2923

        #18
        Re: why?

        Originally posted by Vreki
        I think so, but there will also be negative consequences, let us not forget that.
        Bahahahaha pwnd

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        • jake_
          Fitter, Happier.
          • Mar 2007
          • 4959

          #19
          Re: why?

          This distrust of digital distribution is downright idiotic. You're afraid that if you buy a game on Steam and Valve goes under that you won't have access to your game anymore?

          Well guess what, Valve is a bigger and more successful company than DICE and just as important as EA. If EA/DICE went under you wouldn't be able to play the game either. So I guess your only option now is to not buy the game at all!


          Anyway, I paid $49.99+tax on Steam for my copy. Same as in stores. Only now I can download it an play it on any computer I might be at even if I don't have my disc with me. I don't know about you, but I don't like carrying all my DVD around everywhere I go.

          I also don't like having to get up and go find my disc every time I want to play and then switch it out if I want to use another disc. It's a waste of time.

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          • Chris_Redfield
            Member
            • Oct 2006
            • 5986

            #20
            Re: why?

            Originally posted by jake_
            I also don't like having to get up and go find my disc every time I want to play and then switch it out if I want to use another disc. It's a waste of time.
            2MB mini ISO files, who keeps disks in their DVDROM anyway? You underestimate the importance of a physical copy for a collector. I personally dislike Steam, and I would only consider it for its sick deals. Charging full price for a new game is stupid when digital distribution was supposed to cut those costs in the first place.

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            • imported_Fish
              Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 309

              #21
              Re: why?

              Originally posted by jake_
              Valve is a bigger and more successful company than DICE and just as important as EA. If EA/DICE went under you wouldn't be able to play the game either. So I guess your only option now is to not buy the game at all! .
              Bigger companies than Steam and ED have fallen, we are not saying it would happen just could.


              Originally posted by jake_
              Anyway, I paid $49.99+tax on Steam for my copy. Same as in stores. Only now I can download it an play it on any computer I might be at even if I don't have my disc with me. I don't know about you, but I don't like carrying all my DVD around everywhere I go. .
              The logic to that is baffling.. You dont like carrying your DVD around everywhere you go? are you telling us that you carry your PC, monitor, cables, mouse and keyboard around but halt at the dvd`s?

              Originally posted by jake_
              I also don't like having to get up and go find my disc every time I want to play and then switch it out if I want to use another disc. It's a waste of time.
              Obviously you dont know about the online activation which enables you to play without having the dvd in the tray.

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              • jake_
                Fitter, Happier.
                • Mar 2007
                • 4959

                #22
                Re: why?

                Originally posted by Fish
                Bigger companies than Steam and ED have fallen, we are not saying it would happen just could.
                Steam isn't a company and I don't know who ED is. I'm saying not buying a game from Steam because Valve could go out of business is not a valid reason, because it's just as likely that DICE/EA could go out of business.

                Do you have any concrete, empirical, data to prove otherwise and support your claim that it's too big of a risk to buy a game through Steam?

                Originally posted by Fish
                The logic to that is baffling.. You dont like carrying your DVD around everywhere you go? are you telling us that you carry your PC, monitor, cables, mouse and keyboard around but halt at the dvd`s?
                No. I'm saying I could install it on any computer wherever I might find myself. That means that if I'm using another computer or am in another country or something and want to play the game, I don't need to have the disk with me, I can just download steam and install the game. I can do so for every game I have bought through Steam. That's much more efficient than carrying 20 discs around with me.





                Originally posted by Fish
                Obviously you dont know about the online activation which enables you to play without having the dvd in the tray.
                Yes. You're required to have an internet connection to play games through Steam. However, there's not much point playing a multiplayer game without an internet connection. It's not a concern for me, at least. Do you mostly want to play the BC2 singleplayer campaign only?

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                • GunHappyBob
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 367

                  #23
                  Re: why?

                  Corperate greed.

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                  • Corvic
                    Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 229

                    #24
                    Re: why?

                    Originally posted by jake_
                    Yes. You're required to have an internet connection to play games through Steam. However, there's not much point playing a multiplayer game without an internet connection. It's not a concern for me, at least. Do you mostly want to play the BC2 singleplayer campaign only?
                    actually, if you don't have an internet connection, you can start steam in "offline" mode, and play any of your games.

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                    • imported_Fish
                      Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 309

                      #25
                      Re: why?

                      Originally posted by jake_
                      Steam isn't a company and I don't know who ED is. I'm saying not buying a game from Steam because Valve could go out of business is not a valid reason, because it's just as likely that DICE/EA could go out of business.

                      Do you have any concrete, empirical, data to prove otherwise and support your claim that it's too big of a risk to buy a game through Steam??
                      ED was a typo.. it was suppose to be EA. Im not gettiing into the nitty gritty of proof becuase as you know there isnt any, all we are saying is things like this happen and could happen.


                      Originally posted by jake_
                      No. I'm saying I could install it on any computer wherever I might find myself. That means that if I'm using another computer or am in another country or something and want to play the game, I don't need to have the disk with me, I can just download steam and install the game. I can do so for every game I have bought through Steam. That's much more efficient than carrying 20 discs around with me.?
                      I see. i was confused buy your last comment on this..

                      Originally posted by jake_
                      Yes. You're required to have an internet connection to play games through Steam. However, there's not much point playing a multiplayer game without an internet connection. It's not a concern for me, at least. Do you mostly want to play the BC2 singleplayer campaign only?
                      We know BFBC2 is mainly a MP game so you can hazzard a guess that 99% ppl buying has internet connection, however referring back to your original comment about having to swap out your dvd every time you want to play the game, I was trying to say that you dont have to because the game plays without the dvd if you online activate it. I think we got our wires crossed lol

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                      • BlueAngel7
                        Member
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 126

                        #26
                        Re: why?

                        I usually always buy hard copies for the soul reason of hard drive failure, but have just recently bought Batman: AA from GFWL as it was reduced, but haven't yet been able to install it after downloading it four times. First and last time I ever buy a digital copy.

                        It's also better to have a hard copy as you can sell them on.
                        Battlelog; jeffb7

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                        • jake_
                          Fitter, Happier.
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 4959

                          #27
                          Re: why?

                          Originally posted by BlueAngel7
                          or the soul reason .
                          I'm sorry, but that just made me lol in the middle of a library.

                          ---------- Post added at 09:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:49 AM ----------

                          Originally posted by Fish
                          We know BFBC2 is mainly a MP game so you can hazzard a guess that 99% ppl buying has internet connection, however referring back to your original comment about having to swap out your dvd every time you want to play the game, I was trying to say that you dont have to because the game plays without the dvd if you online activate it. I think we got our wires crossed lol
                          I guess there's plenty of confusion going around. lol

                          I didn't know about online activation. I *suppose* that makes buying a DVD less of a bad idea.

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                          • Vreki
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4226

                            #28
                            Re: why?

                            Originally posted by BlueAngel7
                            I usually always buy hard copies for the soul reason of hard drive failure, but have just recently bought Batman: AA from GFWL as it was reduced, but haven't yet been able to install it after downloading it four times. First and last time I ever buy a digital copy.

                            It's also better to have a hard copy as you can sell them on.
                            Originally posted by jake_
                            I'm sorry, but that just made me lol in the middle of a library. [COLOR="Silver"]
                            Digital Distribution: Bad for the soul!

                            I dont really get the point about harddrive failure. There is no limit on the number of times you can download from steam, and it is possible to back it up to a DVD if you dont want to download the game again for some reason.

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                            • Chris_Redfield
                              Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 5986

                              #29
                              Re: why?

                              Ive been using a miniISO file to keep my DVD from blowing up for years, for BF2. Just because one buys a physical copy, doesnt mean that the negatives associated with its use have to gimp you, they can easily be overcome.

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                              • imported_Fish
                                Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 309

                                #30
                                Re: why?

                                Originally posted by Chris_Redfield
                                Ive been using a miniISO file to keep my DVD from blowing up for years, for BF2. Just because one buys a physical copy, doesnt mean that the negatives associated with its use have to gimp you, they can easily be overcome.
                                yea i used the miniISO for bf2 as well..

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