BC2 Points System causing cheating

[BrokenMachine]

Having played the beta for a while now I am finding nearly every other game there is a couple of players using ammo boxes to gain a massive amount of points. Now I don't just mean the people who glitch to get a massive amount of ammo boxes or health packs but it can be done with only one ammo box as well.

Now the problem with this is not only the people gaining massive amounts of points every game but it also means that one team is also down a couple of players which makes the game very unbalanced. Given that its also 12 a side max on consoles this can be a big hit.

So the problem I have is the amount of points given for resupply and healing. Now I don't think that DICE intended it to be abused but as always someone figure out a way to bend the rules to their own benefit and then other people start doing it and its got to the point (for me at least) that its almost every game someone is doing it and it spoils the game for the rest of us. We have no way of vote kicking but it probably wouldn't make a difference anyway as there is no way of informing the rest of the players that these guys are cheating and how they are doing it.

So the points system needs changing for ammo and health boxes otherwise this will continue and only get more popular.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? What are your thoughts on this and maybe how it should be fixed?

Sorry for the long rant its just getting a bit frustrating now and I'm hoping DICE release some sort of fix soon.

[L-iNC]

Re: BC2 Points System causing cheating

Remove leaderboards and global stats. Problem solved.

[BrokenMachine]

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Remove leaderboards and global stats. Problem solved.

I don't think its just about getting on the scoreboards tho. I think some people are using to make unlocks available quickly given that some of the higher unlocks are better weapons than the earlier ones.

[stilla-killa]

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I thought you had to actually use the weapon to get xp points to unlock the next weapon in that tier. And the ammo and medic points you got went to your rank and not weapon rank. Please correct me if i am wrong.

[MrChris_CJ]

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I saw this, I was defending at the first area and some tard on the yank team was going up stupidly fast in score, he wasn't killing anyone but got to something stupid like 9k but I never worked out how

I did later on see, while defending the bridge etc some snipers in the construction buildings with a billion resupply boxes by them, not sure how it was done

but yeh I think they should just add the cooldown so resupplying the same person excessively doesn't yield the same points

[jake_]

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Don't they function just like the ones in 2142? Or is it just that the points awarded are more. I never had any problems with ammo/med hubs in 2142, especially since you could only deploy one at a time.

[Minmaster]

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i heard about this, it's some sort of a glitch/bug. i guess there's an exploit to have more than 1 out at a time.

[jake_]

Re: BC2 Points System causing cheating

i heard about this, it's some sort of a glitch/bug. i guess there's an exploit to have more than 1 out at a time.

Well if it's a glitch/exploit, there's nothing to be worried about. It will probably be fixed before the game is released.

[Minmaster]

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you never know, this is dice we're talking about... they're not known to fix things quickly. :laugh:

[=)BiT(= Evant3k]

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Well if it's a glitch/exploit, there's nothing to be worried about. It will probably be fixed before the game is released.

Yeah just like the titan resupply glitch.

[BrokenMachine]

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Its not the glitch where you have loads of ammo boxes. It can be done with just one ammo box. I only found this out the other night when i looked at the scoreboard and saw 2 guys with massive scores. I hunted them down several times but they just kept on doing it. I'm not going to explain how its done but it can be done WITHOUT any sort of glitch or exploit. Thats why I'm saying the scoring system needs to be changed or something needs to be done about the way you resupply or heal someone.

[jake_]

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Its not the glitch where you have loads of ammo boxes. It can be done with just one ammo box. I only found this out the other night when i looked at the scoreboard and saw 2 guys with massive scores. I hunted them down several times but they just kept on doing it. I'm not going to explain how its done but it can be done WITHOUT any sort of glitch or exploit. Thats why I'm saying the scoring system needs to be changed or something needs to be done about the way you resupply or heal someone.

Does this happen for every person who uses an ammo hub, i.e. getting hundreds of points quickly? It seems crazy that DICE would design the game to allow you to do such a thing, yet you claim it isn't a glitch or exploit, implying that it has been programmed into the the game and isn't any sort of glitch, but intentional on DICE's part.

If it's not a glitch/exploit, then it's a hack.

And why won't you explain how it's done?

[BrokenMachine]

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Does this happen for every person who uses an ammo hub, i.e. getting hundreds of points quickly? It seems crazy that DICE would design the game to allow you to do such a thing, yet you claim it isn't a glitch or exploit, implying that it has been programmed into the the game and isn't any sort of glitch, but intentional on DICE's part.

If it's not a glitch/exploit, then it's a hack.

And why won't you explain how it's done?

Its not a hack, its a design flaw in the game. If you really want to know then I will post how its done as long as the mods don't have a problem with it. The problem is with the amount of points you get from resupplying and healing people.

[Nicfurious29]

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Its not a glitch and its done rather easily. Basically, both people just sit on each others ammo box and shoot your weapon or toss nades. You are given 10 pts everytime the persons ammo is resupplied, which it does automatically. I learned this after I threw an ammo box under the feet of a sniper. For every shot he took, i gained 10pts.

Honestly, i could care less about this "exploit" because what Stilla-Killa stated is correct!! The points only count towards your rank and class upgrades, NOT WEAPON UPGRADES!!

Also, you gain more points being active in the game than sitting in a corner stacking points. For those who may not know, there are achievement awards given out during play that increases your overall score. For example, if I finish a round with 2000pts, but achieved 5 medals during gameplay, your overall pts for the round can increase to 3000+, that is added to your global score.

There are many times where I've won the, "best player in a round" badge, without having the top score. This is because achievements such as killing 5 people in a row, not only earns you a badge, but it increases your overall score. Im not sure why the extra points for the badges you earn in a round doesnt reflect during the game but it does in your overall score and rank.

[jake_]

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Its not a hack, its a design flaw in the game. If you really want to know then I will post how its done as long as the mods don't have a problem with it. The problem is with the amount of points you get from resupplying and healing people.

Then why would the mods have a problem with it?

Its not a glitch and its done rather easily. Basically, both people just sit on each others ammo box and shoot your weapon or toss nades. You are given 10 pts everytime the persons ammo is resupplied, which it does automatically. I learned this after I threw an ammo box under the feet of a sniper. For every shot he took, i gained 10pts.

Honestly, i could care less about this "exploit" because what Stilla-Killa stated is correct!! The points only count towards your rank and class upgrades, NOT WEAPON UPGRADES!!

Thank you for clarifying. You could always get a lot of points from resupplying and healing people in 2142, but it was never an issue to me, because I could easily get a high score only by fragging people.

They could lower the number of points per resupply, but I would hardly care either way, if I were playing the game right now.

We'll have to see when the PC beta comes out.