JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

[[FM]JoeCool4433]

:ranton: so i just happened to tumble on over to the battlefield site after posting over at total cod and i saw that thier is a new game being announced....my 1st thought is "OMG BF3 IMPOSSIBLE!"......i wish i hadnt clicked on the link to find out more, all i read was really disappointing....to have a "game" out in the beta (mind u it seems like forever) and then announce another "game" that will release in the summer really just makes no sense, why toy with the PC community like this anyways......its been forever and a year ago since i have even touched BF2 because its just out of date and this is all they have to show for the amount of time since then?.....honestly i cannot even think about remotely spending money on a game that will jsut simply be thrown together just to try and appease us........the only good things i have seen thus far are the destructible environments via the new engine, the regenative health (bout time...so sick of having to wait around for a medic or watching a medic only worry about his damn self), and the new bomber squadron thing......those are great ideas.......now for me, the idea of having big expansive maps is great n' all for vehicle combat but not for infantry warfare......i got so sick of playing 24/7 wake maps in bf2 because the city maps (24/7 karkand maps do not count) were never populated as much and let alone if u were not a sniper u might as well say goodbye......the base weapons were horrible!....they could never hit a damn thing even at point blank range and the movement of the player was jsut so static (seriously how can u not strafe and run at the same time).......i loved the vehicles and the aircraft for all they were worth but honestly nothing was more satisfying then just killing a person with a rifle (not a sniper rifle)...tho i never really did get that chance much because i couldnt just pick up some1's rifle......needless to say i hope and pray to god that DICE actually works on/fixes:
a) weapon balance so every1 is not just snipers.
b) vehicle balance - totally ridiculas that the j-10 and the f-35 were not even on the same playing field.
c) an ammo counter that doesnt jsut throw away yur clip even if it was half full.
d) (for BF3, if there will be a BF 3) a ranking system that is much easier to get to the last level rather then taking 50,000 hours of game time

i hate to go away from a series that drew me into online MP FPS gaming but i may have no choice unless the BF series can actually compete with titles like CoD that are constantly releasing new games that are cutting edge (dont count W@W cause it was really jsut a mod for CoD 4) and will still be fun to play even after their time......i can't deny that i had fun playing BF2 but when it got so bad that not even mods could draw me back in, i can't say that i'll go back without something spectacular and amazing......:rantoff:

TL;DR - DICE has a lot to do to bring me back from leaving BF2 for good


please feel free to share your own opinion but do not flame me because i shared my own opinion and it may be disagreeing with your own


Regards,
JC :salute:

[old sch00l]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

"small" :laugh:

[CptainCrunch]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

I think you have some very good points. Most here do have some good opinions. You will probably get flamed, but its OK, these are just your ideas anyway

Crunch

[MrChris_CJ]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

Regenerative health and infinite ammo just made me lol when I read the 1943 info

I played COD4 (*shudder) and thought it was absolutely dire, I don't think BF needs to change the core gameplay concepts

just stop screwing us around with this low quality experimental crap

[Kylee!]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

just stop screwing us around with this low quality experimental crap

Basically.

[Minmaster]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

stop it, you're making patrick sad... :cry: :laugh:

[Rambo]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

You will play what we sell you,We dont want to listen to what you think...we a superior,we are the noobs at EA:salute:


Seriously can someone make a mod of us vs EA so i can put some c4 under thier slack a sses:yay:

[imported_Whiskey]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

just stop screwing us around with this low quality experimental crap

The "low quality" part, of course I agree with. Games should be done right, and not put out to market until they are ready.

However, with the changing industry and player demographics, developers & publishers have to experiment a bit in order to try to capture the widest audience and most players possible. It may tick off long-time fans of the game, but it makes sense financially.

And if they're going to experiment and try new things, maybe the place to do it is on a small-ish game like this one. They may be trying to see what users want going forward, before they make a definite change for a big future title (ie. like a BF3, or whatever it might be called).

[imported_antihero]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

OP, your soapbox is boring and for the most part preaching to the choir here. Only a few of us that think you're misguided still visit these forums and wade through the baby tears.

[Kylee!]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

OP, your soapbox is boring and for the most part preaching to the choir here. Only a few of us that think you're misguided still visit these forums and wade through the baby tears.

He uses metaphors. He is cool.

[[FM]JoeCool4433]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

And if they're going to experiment and try new things, maybe the place to do it is on a small-ish game like this one. They may be trying to see what users want going forward, before they make a definite change for a big future title (ie. like a BF3, or whatever it might be called).

well i hope that they do it right then like u had said, but the biggest thing i am upset about is that they've had all this time and for the time that we have been waiting i would have thought they would have come out with something better then a tiny experimental game





i have a strange feeling some1 will say , but i am willing to take that risk

OP, your soapbox is boring

well i am sorry to have wasted your time reading the entire thing because i didnt post the TL;DR sooner in the post.....however, i was under the assumption that this was a forum where every1 and any1 could post their opinion, have their moment on the soapbox (no matter how dull or boring), and see what others have to say whether in agreement or disagreement, but i guess i was wrong for making such lax assumptions

to reply to your other portion of your statement: yes i do agree that i am preaching to the choir and there are probably some who will disagree with me
who have to deal with many others who want to change the status quo of BF2's gameplay which they like, but please do not just simply come here to just bash me for having an opinion without at least providing your own reasons why i am wrong other then just because

[[Expletive Deleted]]

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There are a few people here who have decided that no one else is allowed to have an opinion that doesn't run parallel to theirs. It's best to just ignore those people.

[DontKnockIt225]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

No offense to [FM]JoeCool4433, your post suggests your technique with most guns is very bad and thus your opinion on the guns apart from sniper is not good.

The medic guns can shoot over 250M when used correctly. Let alone pistol can shoot over 100m, and special forces guns can probily do 300m. I like how you say the good points :).

However, I would disagree on the ranking system. A fast ranking system like Cod4 will make people "burn out" faster and move to another game. Battlefield has got a brilliant long term ranking system.

I only wish they kept it how it originally was.
2nd unlock =10k points ^^. Now that made the game brilliant.

[imported_antihero]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

I have a better question for [FM]JoeCool4433, what the hell does your first post have to do with BF1943?

[[FM]JoeCool4433]

Re: JoeCool's thoughts and "small" rant about 1943

No offense to [FM]JoeCool4433, your post suggests your technique with most guns is very bad and thus your opinion on the guns apart from sniper is not good.

The medic guns can shoot over 250M when used correctly. Let alone pistol can shoot over 100m, and special forces guns can probily do 300m. I like how you say the good points :).

However, I would disagree on the ranking system. A fast ranking system like Cod4 will make people "burn out" faster and move to another game. Battlefield has got a brilliant long term ranking system.

I only wish they kept it how it originally was.
2nd unlock =10k points ^^. Now that made the game brilliant.

lemme make a clarification about weapon balance......im not trying to say that the weapons lack range its just that whenever i would go into a server i would generally play as medic for only one weapon, the g36e because it had 3 round burst and the only weapon accurate enough when rapidly fired to have most of the rounds to hit their mark....the m16 was the same way....its just that for anything other then semi auto or burst the weapons were not really that accurate in full auto.....i used all of the weapons at one point and many of them are just not that accurate at all.....the g3 was nice because it packed a punch with each shot even though it was very inaccurate with full auto (i think it could be used full auto, been a while since i've played)......that weapon was balanced as it had stopping power but couldnt be rapidly fired accurately enough to own everyone.....the other weapons that were autos mostly had low stopping power, which along with their low accuracy, made for a lowsy auto imo (just spary and pray).......another thing that kinda made it bad was the fact that in order to get a good enough group of shots was to lay down quickly and get off your shots before running off/away.....ty tho for at least putting the no offense part and fyi none taken

for the ranking system i do agree with you about the burning out deal but i just felt that i put in way too much time into BF2 to not see more reward then i did (2142 i could see my time spent in game more worth it because i got rank ups faster but at a decent rate to keep me wanting more).....its not so much that i want to not have a challenge in getting my next rank up as much as it is that whenever u got a new weapon from an unlock u used that weapon and that weapon only because it was that much better then all of the other base weapons (2142 had better base weapons then BF2 thus everyone was on a level playing field and those who had all the unlocks had no advantage over another)...but this is just imo and prolly not at all what the next BF game will be like

I have a better question for [FM]JoeCool4433, what the hell does your first post have to do with BF1943?

my OP has to do with BF1943 because i dont like how DICE has come out and announced this small game rather then a "BF3" that we have all been dying for......i put in the rest of the post because i wanted to express my feelings on what needs to be done with the next BF game whether it be BF1943, BF3, or BF whatever......im sorry to say that if this had absolutely nothing to do with BF1943 the mods would have moved it or deleted....have a nice day:thumbsup: