Mod Trailers, Why oh why....

[Elxx]

Re: Mod Trailers, Why oh why....

I figure the aim of a promotional trailer would be to show off lots of things in a short period of time. Some mod teams do it differently than others, but you shouldn't be turned off a mod because the trailer does not meet your specifications. They're totally free to download and easy to delete. :p

Besides, look at the BF:BC release trailer. Certainly that was made by someone with a knowledge of these things, and the last minute or so consists of random half-second clips of stuff blowing up.

[imported_Rhino]

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the best thing about BFBC apart from the engine is the video clips, its like watching a film hehe.

[Wizrdwarts]

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Oh ffs you I'm tired of the "you can't do it so mine is good" argument. So we should also stop criticizing movies since we can't make movies ourselves?

[imported_Rhino]

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Oh ffs you I'm tired of the "you can't do it so mine is good" argument. So we should also stop criticizing movies since we can't make movies ourselves?

I didn't even make any of these videos, all I'm saying is that if he think's he can do so much better why doesn't he prove it to us? Do you really think I just sat back and criticized other peoples maps, models and textures before I had a very good understanding of how it was done and had done it myself?

[TheHeartSmasher]

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My only problems with the PR trailers/videos where they were none in the intro to PR when launching it after the BSS clip, :). The 0.5 one in particular was my favorite and I would love to see that to help me get into the mood when playing PR. Hopefully we will get the trailer/intro video at the beginning of all mods.

Onto the critiquing of the mod trailers. Not all mod teams have video editors/directors and graphics teams. Some are done by those that just play the game and want to do a few customizations of things to give it to you in their special way. Getting people together that can focus and stay on task and actually getting a trailer going with live people is not always an easy task especially when you have to do multiple retakes if something did not come out right during recording. Some teams do not have the time or skill it takes to develop a high quality trailer as it's not a 3 minute job or something you can create with a few minutes in Windows Movie Maker. Plus, if your the only one working on the project and your team does not have certain standards that they have set for quality of any trailers or movies released it might come out looking pretty weird since little or no input was required before the trailer went public. As some do the trailers for fun, some to really bring you into the mod, some just to show you some things that are in the mod as quick as possible for you and them without having to spend too much time on the trailer.

[bman427]

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Wow....I am getting sick of you Wolf, you keep on having complaints about how bad the bf2 trailers are. I would rather have the Devs put more into their mods then make trailers.

Let see one of your trailers since you call many "crap"?

[predragjanjic]

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below is a perfect example of a teaser\trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31749.html

the vids I see on here are to long first of all, not edited right either, and not that exciting


I like the sandbox trailer tho

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tlX5UP28Ns&eurl=http://battlefield2.filefront.com/file/Sandbox_05;80553[/media]

[imported_Rhino]

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below is a perfect example of a teaser\trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31749.html

the vids I see on here are to long first of all, not edited right either, and not that exciting


I like the sandbox trailer tho

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tlX5UP28Ns&eurl=http://battlefield2.filefront.com/file/Sandbox_05;80553[/media]

trailer is probably the wrong word to really describe these types of vids we do since they are more really "promotional videos" rather than a short trailer.

[predragjanjic]

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yea promo video sounds right, imo its just not edited right for a trailer :)


good footage and all but it doesnt feel like a trailer


I dunno how you see vids but its tricky, for example, making an intro video is allot harder then making a random music video so if you dont have experience with intro vids then its gona be hard for you to make one and make people feel like they are watching an intro


Ive been watchin game trailers and intros for so long, I just love a nicely done video

[jesus]

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I didn't even make any of these videos, all I'm saying is that if he think's he can do so much better why doesn't he prove it to us? Do you really think I just sat back and criticized other peoples maps, models and textures before I had a very good understanding of how it was done and had done it myself?

I don't agree with that. If you take part in something, you should have the right to your opinion on it. Do movie critics produce and direct movies? Does IGN and gametrailers make games? No, they don't, so according to you, they don't deserve the right to judge games or movies or shows, or whatever else.

I've played countless of maps so when I come across one that I feel is bad and I have valid reasons for that opinion, then what's wrong? Just because I don't know how to make maps doesn't mean I have no clue what's bad and what's not. If anything, the person who has played on 50 custom maps, but has never made one before, has a bit more knowledge about playability and what's fun than someone who has played on 10 custom maps and also created their own map.

Now if someone says something is bad and claims they can do better but doesn't provide proof, then that's a different story...

[imported_Rhino]

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that was not what I was saying by my post if you read it again, I was saying that if I thought I could do a better job I did a better job rather than criticize about it.

[jesus]

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that was not what I was saying by my post if you read it again, I was saying that if I thought I could do a better job I did a better job rather than criticize about it.

Well you said "Do you really think I just sat back and criticized other peoples maps, models and textures before I had a very good understanding of how it was done and had done it myself?" so I assumed that you thought your opinion about maps, models and textures was completely invalid until you did those things yourself.

You don't need hands on experience to distinguish the difference between textures in Crysis and textures in CoD4, for example.

[imported_Rhino]

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by that I meant constructive criticism on how to improve them

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-pr-community-modding/37760-map-khara-afganistan-12.html#post653831

(that was before CRF became a dev and the map was part of PR)

there is a good example of what I mean, ROGUEwolf/BH isn't really highlighting areas to improve all hes really saying is its bad so that is just criticism instead of constructive criticism

I'm fine with constructive criticism from some one who dont know how to do stuff as long as you can work with it ie "this bit of the film seems odd, you could may be do such and such to improve it possibly?"

[jesus]

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by that I meant constructive criticism on how to improve them

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-pr-community-modding/37760-map-khara-afganistan-12.html#post653831

(that was before CRF became a dev and the map was part of PR)

there is a good example of what I mean, ROGUEwolf/BH isn't really highlighting areas to improve all hes really saying is its bad so that is just criticism instead of constructive criticism

I'm fine with constructive criticism from some one who dont know how to do stuff as long as you can work with it ie "this bit of the film seems odd, you could may be do such and such to improve it possibly?"

You should have made that clear in your post, then.

[RW-RogueWolf]

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there is a good example of what I mean, ROGUEwolf/BH isn't really highlighting areas to improve all hes really saying is its bad so that is just criticism instead of constructive criticism

I'm fine with constructive criticism from some one who dont know how to do stuff as long as you can work with it ie "this bit of the film seems odd, you could may be do such and such to improve it possibly?"

Fair enough Rhino, i did highlight the area's i thought was wrong, i'd of thought you could of got a good idea of what to change from that, if not my mistake.

Wow....I am getting sick of you Wolf, you keep on having complaints about how bad the bf2 trailers are. I would rather have the Devs put more into their mods then make trailers.

Let see one of your trailers since you call many "crap"?

Bman, this is a forum where you discuss things, what are you expecting? Flowers and butterflys. Let me add, this is a cut throat forum, no one is nice here, its never good enough for anyone, but thats how it works, Be sick of me, but this is what, the 3rd time ive mentioned something like this? So your getting angry over nothing.

And for the love of.... i never said these trailers were crap, i said they could be improved ten fold!

As for posting my own work on here, whats the point, because of my arguement people will rip me to shreds, just to get one over on me, but what the hell.

Bare in mind this is a promo for an event, this is to show carnage and action, not to show off new things. Because its only for carnage an action its pretty self explanatory, doesn't get confusing, doesn't require a story, this is a trailer where randomness is supposed to be.

[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ojmiYyI26hU&fmt=18[/media]