Dump all tanks!

[imported_Ricochet]

Why aren't tanks in BF2 built from the same material as the dumpters? Go try and shell a dumpster from close range. 10 -20 shells?: Not a scratch!
OK, Dice had to come up with some extra tough teflon material for the dumpsters, to prevent frag happy noobs messing up the whole place on their metal shredding sprees. Nothing more depressing than screwing up your dream kill because you stumbled prone into an used diaper. But that there was a huge communication breakdown between the tank design department and other design departments at Dice's is more than obvious. Not convinced? Go check the aicraft repair containers after those mind numbing waves of base rape artying. Still in mint condition. Yet, they sent us out in cardboard armored vehicles that can get dammaged considerably by bumping into a sandbag or two. Tsk, tsk... :shakehead:

[Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=]

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I guess it adds balance to the game..

[=)BiT(= Evant3k]

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This game is 3 years old BTW...

[Sloi sauce]

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Why aren't tanks in BF2 built from the same material as the dumpters? Go try and shell a dumpster from close range. 10 -20 shells?: Not a scratch!
OK, Dice had to come up with some extra tough teflon material for the dumpsters, to prevent frag happy noobs messing up the whole place on their metal shredding sprees. Nothing more depressing than screwing up your dream kill because you stumbled prone into an used diaper. But that there was a huge communication breakdown between the tank design department and other design departments at Dice's is more than obvious. Not convinced? Go check the aicraft repair containers after those mind numbing waves of base rape artying. Still in mint condition. Yet, they sent us out in cardboard armored vehicles that can get dammaged considerably by bumping into a sandbag or two. Tsk, tsk... :shakehead:

1. They cut a few corners here and there.
2. Cosmetic reasons.

Think about how f*cking retarded Bad Company looks within 5 minutes of a round starting, now scale it up to BF2... yeah. Every single map would look like the moon. No thanks.

They struck a nice balance.

[=98=]

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Because BF2 isn't meant to realistic. It's meant to be about fun. They hit a good balance with tanks IMO.

[Kylee!]

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1. They cut a few corners here and there.
2. Cosmetic reasons.

Think about how f*cking retarded Bad Company looks within 5 minutes of a round starting, now scale it up to BF2... yeah. Every single map would look like the moon. No thanks.

They struck a nice balance.

Dude, you serious? BC looks badass at the end of a round, and it helps if you're the one who causes the destruction.

If you had two large armies fighting in a city, then yea it's gonna get blown to hell...

[finc.hairy]

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Why aren't tanks in BF2 built from the same material as the dumpters? Go try and shell a dumpster from close range. 10 -20 shells?: Not a scratch!
OK, Dice had to come up with some extra tough teflon material for the dumpsters, to prevent frag happy noobs messing up the whole place on their metal shredding sprees. Nothing more depressing than screwing up your dream kill because you stumbled prone into an used diaper. But that there was a huge communication breakdown between the tank design department and other design departments at Dice's is more than obvious. Not convinced? Go check the aicraft repair containers after those mind numbing waves of base rape artying. Still in mint condition. Yet, they sent us out in cardboard armored vehicles that can get dammaged considerably by bumping into a sandbag or two. Tsk, tsk... :shakehead:

Think about how smart the players are for sprinting and TKing each other on Karkand just so they can use these cardboard armored vehicles!

[[GCA]Tim270]

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sigh, there is little to no destructible environment for bf2, it is possible but it hits performance pretty hard (Check out PR and other mods ). About the tanks, would you really find it fun to take 20 or so hits before you die? no.

[finc.hairy]

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sigh, there is little to no destructible environment for bf2, it is possible but it hits performance pretty hard (Check out PR and other mods ). About the tanks, would you really find it fun to take 20 or so hits before you die? no.

20 hits...no. But sandbags shouldn't cause any damage either...

"they sent us out in cardboard armored vehicles that can get dammaged considerably by bumping into a sandbag or two. Tsk, tsk..."

[Lazza66]

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Because BF2 isn't meant to realistic. It's meant to be about fun. They hit a good balance with tanks IMO.

No. BF2 is supposed to be as realistic as possible while retaining the paper, scissors, rock combat formula and remaining accessible to all skill levels.

Realism isn't restricted to the combat mechanisms. There's also the graphics, physics, effects, and sound etc. If you were to say the combat mechanisms aren't meant to be realistic then that would be more accurate, but still incorrect. Some of the combat mechanisms are designed to simulate reality (inbuilt bullet deviations) but also serve to assist the gameplay style (this also makes you harder to kill).

Saying BF2 isn't meant to be realistic is incorrect and oversimplistic.

Now BF Heroes, that's not meant to be realistic.

[Kylee!]

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No. BF2 is supposed to be as realistic as possible while retaining the paper, scissors, rock combat formula and remaining accessible to all skill levels.

Realism isn't restricted to the combat mechanisms. There's also the graphics, physics, effects, and sound etc. If you were to say the combat mechanisms aren't meant to be realistic then that would be more accurate, but still incorrect. Some of the combat mechanisms are designed to simulate reality (inbuilt bullet deviations) but also serve to assist the gameplay style (this also makes you harder to kill).

Saying BF2 isn't meant to be realistic is incorrect and oversimplistic.

Now BF Heroes, that's not meant to be realistic.

Using a lot of big words doesn't make you right.

I'm sure there is a quote somewhere from DICE saying how in no way was BF2 meant to be realistic, it was meant to be arcady. DICE then points in the direction of the modders to make things realistic.

[Lazza66]

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Using a lot of big words doesn't make you right.

I'm sure there is a quote somewhere from DICE saying how in no way was BF2 meant to be realistic, it was meant to be arcady. DICE then points in the direction of the modders to make things realistic.

No, wrong. "when we had to choose between realism and fun, we always choose fun" (John Hargelid, Associate Producer, DICE) supports exactly what I said.

This is by far removed from the claim "BF2 isn't meant to [be] realistic" given DICE say when realism must be sacrificed for fun, it is. I.e. fun first, realism 2nd. Is it clearer now?

[finc.hairy]

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This is by far removed from the claim "BF2 isn't meant to realistic" given DICE say when realism must be sacrificed for fun, it is. I.e. fun first, realism 2nd. Is it clearer now?

Nope! Can you please repeat using monosyllabic words?

Also....

$20 Singapore Dollars says that the BF Heroes Tanks > BF2 Tanks

[imported_bigpappa]

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This game is 3 years old BTW...

Happy Birthday!

[DesmondLocke]

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Soooo.... for realism, you want tanks to be near impenetrable. Do you also want a single tank shell to be able to reach almost anywhere on the map and kill everyone within a 10 meter radius? That would be realistic. But would it be fun?