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  • blank1
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    Re: why the hate?

    Originally posted by Lolyn
    Either way, my style of shooting is hit the head first and bring the gun down so when the deviation increases, you're hitting a bigger area (torso).... as field says, usually results in a near insta-kill since the first bullet hits the head... down to less than half health and then all it takes in most situations is another 2 or 3 bullets and the enemy is down. For that purpose I'll usually opt for a gun with a high ROF so they go down faster.
    Assuming that the Krylov and Voss hit two shots to the head (Which is more unlikely at the most common distance of engagement due to the mushrooming effect of deviation, the Krylov and Voss having the two lowest among AR's), they kill in 0.133 seconds. The Baur and the SCAR-11 will kill in 0.2 seconds. That's a difference of less than 7 1/100's of a second... basically, in the time it takes you to say "hax!" seven hundred clicks fit into that, which is the margin of difference between the Krylov/Voss and Baur/SCAR-11. Basically, it's so microscopic it is not even relevant. Then the time to kill on the Krylov, Baur, and Voss are virtually identical with the SCAR-11 lacking a little bit (at a total of 0.4 seconds assuming torso shots).

    Basically, once all is said and done, rate of fire is not as important as the time to kill. The time to kill between the weapons assuming head shots is minimal or torso shots is minimal. Therefore, the AR argument is basically this: ease of use and poorer ranged performance vs. higher learning curve and better consistency. Even then the differences aren't enough to say, for sure, that X AR > Y AR. Use what you're good with and what you like, it's not like there's that much of a difference.

    (Baur > *)

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  • sempf
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    ah soz dude but had a baaaaaaaaaaaaaad day. i suck in french. had exams french and needed to get a good note. but the b*tch made a test that was impossible to make. barely was able to fill in the half of hte dam test. i guessed all the rest. but well it was a bad day. also it was raining and needed to walk to home(i have a broken arm so cannot go on byke or lift on other people's bykes).

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  • Lolyn
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    Originally posted by sempf
    lolyn no need for telling me how to use the baur. i am(used to be) the n4 baur user in my country with only 6 days baur use time. i have one of the highest kpm w/ the baur in the dutch list.
    Don't get offended man, I'm not telling you how to use a weapon that I know you can use - I'm simply stating that for an experienced player, recoil is combatted against pretty much automatically, compared to deviation which by nature differs randomly given gun and situation used... thus I'd categorise it as something more pressing when deciding which gun to use and when.

    Either way, my style of shooting is hit the head first and bring the gun down so when the deviation increases, you're hitting a bigger area (torso).... as field says, usually results in a near insta-kill since the first bullet hits the head... down to less than half health and then all it takes in most situations is another 2 or 3 bullets and the enemy is down. For that purpose I'll usually opt for a gun with a high ROF so they go down faster.

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  • EnergyNL
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    it's 5372 :p

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  • blank1
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    Originally posted by sempf
    lolyn no need for telling me how to use the baur. i am(used to be) the n4 baur user in my country with only 6 days baur use time. i have one of the highest kpm w/ the baur in the dutch list.
    That's probably because you're one of four people in your country to use the Baur.

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  • Liberator29
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    Dutch? Are you sure your proud to be the number four dutchman?

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  • sempf
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    lolyn no need for telling me how to use the baur. i am(used to be) the n4 baur user in my country with only 6 days baur use time. i have one of the highest kpm w/ the baur in the dutch list.

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  • imported_Kalo
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    Originally posted by Field
    i would say that the scar is better for people that dont generally get up close..but he krylov feels more useful at range too. its just easier to kill people with, how you'd say..more noobish.
    Considering how straight the SC11 shoots in Semi, I'd say I have to disagree.

    The SCAR more than shows its worth at long range, provided you aren't in a heated combat zone.

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  • blank1
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    No AR kills in two shots, other than head shots, in this game. The Baur takes 4 to kill, every other weapon takes 5, with the Krylov being the fastest to degrade to 6, followed by the SCAR, then Voss, while the Baur keeps a 4 shot kill for a bit then degrades to 5.

    The Baur is the most versatile weapon in the game. Assuming full damage and full accuracy (A CQC situation) the Krylov and Voss will put down a guy in heavy armor in 0.3 seconds. It takes the Baur 0.33, while having superior deviation.

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  • jake_
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    Originally posted by Lolyn
    Recoil can be adjusted for manually with practice, deviation is best countered by burst firing however generally the first 3 shots in a burst fire in a similar direction... and if you're hitting the head then they're dead by this time. So to an experienced user of each weapon who can control the recoil pattern of weapons (which isn't THAT difficult), deviation is generally their primary concern :)
    :nod:

    Recoil is very easily countered. I try to never fire more than a few bursts at a time.

    Saves ammo too.

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  • imported_Field
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    yeah dude recoil is kid stuff lol

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  • Lolyn
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    Originally posted by sempf
    you forget recoil lolyn. else the baur would be better for headshots the a scar as it has the same speed but is more accurate
    Recoil can be adjusted for manually with practice, deviation is best countered by burst firing however generally the first 3 shots in a burst fire in a similar direction... and if you're hitting the head then they're dead by this time. So to an experienced user of each weapon who can control the recoil pattern of weapons (which isn't THAT difficult), deviation is generally their primary concern :)

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  • imported_Field
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    its generally quicker to instakill people by just bursting at the crotch but yeah i love it when people think they are protected when they are shooting at you and all thats showing is thier head LOL

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  • imported_Ezekiel
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    The scar has a larger vertical recoil whereas the Krylov opts for a more horizontal recoil.

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  • sempf
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    you forget recoil lolyn. else the baur would be better for headshots the a scar as it has the same speed but is more accurate

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