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  • <TB>asain
    Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 54

    #1

    Perfect recon

    What do you think non recons(assault,support,engineer) want recons to do?

    -If you had a recon on your team what would you love him to do?

    -What annoys you most about recons?

    -What does a good recon do?

    -What does a bad recon do?

    -What do you think is the main purpose of the spec ops orientated recon in conquest?
  • TrooperJac
    Lost in 2142
    • Nov 2006
    • 868

    #2
    Re: Perfect recon

    Good thing a recon can do is squad up and spot targets. Red diamonds on the netbat last longer if a recon has the netbat upgrade.

    A recon should move with his squad but stay back a little to take an overview. Mine captured flags to prevent retakes.

    If the enemy is using commander assets then a good recon can get behind lines and take them out. On maps like CG and CL etc a good recon can go deep and capture the enemy control centre giving your team access to more vehicles and spawn points as well as keep control over orb strikes and such.

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    • BandoIruka
      Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 278

      #3
      Re: Perfect recon

      it is a subtle thing that recons do in terms of noticable teamwork. You can't really tell that the teamwork has been done, but you will notice it when the teamwork ISN'T done. You are getting surprised and shot more often, Enemies seem to be appearing from no where, you are cowering behind cover while enemies seem to be in control of the fight, orbital strikes, emps are falling on you aplenty and the enemy seems to know where you are hiding.

      Recons are one of those units that surprise and disrupt the enemy to reduce their combat effectiveness. Whever by taking out infantry with a single bullet or by sneaking up close to bring his other weapons to bear, recons can blunt enemy attacks or fracture enemy defenses. Secondly, they seem suited for scouts since their stealth-orientated playstyle affords them the ability to sneak to places of vantage point.

      But by themselves, they don't fare well in headon fights and can't hold flags/silos/ground as well a assault or support since they can't heal or resupply themselves. So those lone wolf recons that don't coordinate their efforts with other teammates are letting some of their talents go to waste.

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      • Fingulfin
        Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 1433

        #4
        Re: Perfect recon

        You guys won't believe me, but Recons should be on the front lines capturing flags... Slap down a Ghost and whip out your cloaker, the enemy can't stop you!

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        • ZinZ

          #5
          Re: Perfect recon

          -If you had a recon on your team what would you love him to do?

          -What annoys you most about recons?

          -What does a good recon do? He either "reaches out and touches people" from range and defends flags as a sniper. Or he goes and caps flags with his ghost and cloak, and basically sneaks around. Sometimes maybe even ambush groups with his Lambert lead them into RDX/APMs ect. Also taking out walkers/favs with traps and stuff.

          -What does a bad recon do? Sits around and camps, not getting any kills. Or charges in with us Medics and full sprays the Lambert like an idiot then if the medics go down he just runs forward charging alone instead of picking up a kit.

          -What do you think is the main purpose of the spec ops orientated recon in conquest? Depends really, if you can shoot like an assault with a lambert then get in a squad and watch the back or move first to distract people. Some people play different, just help the team however you can.

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          • <TB>asain
            Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 54

            #6
            Re: Perfect recon

            Thanks for all the inputs, i appreciate it :)

            Originally posted by Fingulfin
            You guys won't believe me, but Recons should be on the front lines capturing flags... Slap down a Ghost and whip out your cloaker, the enemy can't stop you!
            Part of this is right,recons are good at taking flags behind lines with the active camo and the ghost but there are some few things you shall watch out for.

            The sniper decoy has a 60m radius so stick to it.

            The active camo makes noise so enemies who are close can almost pinpoint your location by just hearing.
            Also be watchful of your surroundings when using the active camo,even if the camoflage on your hand looks good doesn`t mean it has to be as good from your left,right side or behind you.

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            • TrooperJac
              Lost in 2142
              • Nov 2006
              • 868

              #7
              Re: Perfect recon

              As far as I'm concerned the active camo is useless against infantry at anything closer than 20m. Unless said troop is deaf :laugh:

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              • Fingulfin
                Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 1433

                #8
                Re: Perfect recon

                Originally posted by TrooperJac
                As far as I'm concerned the active camo is useless against infantry at anything closer than 20m. Unless said troop is deaf :laugh:
                The Cloak is useless against smart players, however only around 20% of the 2142 population is smart... That means that you will pass by 8/10 enemies without incident. IMO, that makes it worth it right off the bat

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                • iQue
                  Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 4925

                  #9
                  Re: Perfect recon

                  The cloak is great at some distance, in CQC it doesn't exactly do wonders but you become invisible after about 30 m.

                  IMO, recons should have an offensive task, not necessarily capping flags at the back but placing APM's and RDX at the frontline. After you've done that you either move forward or hang at the back taking out key targets (PK rocket spammers) :p

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                  • TrooperJac
                    Lost in 2142
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 868

                    #10
                    Re: Perfect recon

                    A good sniper can suppress the enemy advance. On maps like Minsk EU snipers can hold down the advancing PAC whilst shotgun touting supports mop them up.

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                    • imported_SpLiTz
                      Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 144

                      #11
                      Re: Perfect recon

                      Sniper recons should defend flags.

                      Stealth recons should blow assets, which is a solid strategy for winning when you have a good enemy commander.

                      In general, recons on maps like Cerb and Camp G should focus on blowing walkers if they are up and around. I hate to say that, as I'm a big walker whore. I can blow rorsche's, motion mine bait away mines, and repair pilum shots, but those sneaky little recons rdx'ing my walker are always a problem.

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                      • jake_
                        Fitter, Happier.
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 4959

                        #12
                        Re: Perfect recon

                        Someone who isn't a loner and will follow squad leader (and by proxy, commander) orders.

                        Recon is obviously good at defense, but I find them a lot more useful at capping with RDX and APM's.

                        When they get caught up in sniping they can forget to follow orders

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                        • hooahguy

                          #13
                          Re: Perfect recon

                          i just want the sniper to take out other snipers who will take me out if they dont get them. whenever im at toll, and im a sniper, i am always looking out for snipers on the roofs....

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                          • Diamond621

                            #14
                            Re: Perfect recon

                            Originally posted by Fingulfin
                            The Cloak is useless against smart players, however only around 20% of the 2142 population is smart... That means that you will pass by 8/10 enemies without incident. IMO, that makes it worth it right off the bat
                            Fin is on the right track, but personally I would revise his figures to 90% / 10%, rather than 80/20. :p

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                            • FURRY BIRD

                              #15
                              Re: Perfect recon

                              Originally posted by hooahguy
                              i just want the sniper to take out other snipers who will take me out if they dont get them. whenever im at toll, and im a sniper, i am always looking out for snipers on the roofs....
                              I do a lot of sniping as recon and have save many solders from getting sniped, so indirectly snipers are valuable if used correctly, usually stay far from the squad and snipe and don't capture silos or flags.:salute:

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