Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

[SirCyRo]

OK, picture this scenario. 2 players spawn at beginning of a map, or heck, even in the middle of a match. They both bolt for that J10 that's patiently waiting in the hanger. Player 1 is in front of Player 2, but Player 2 is a bit more greedy, and desparately wants to build in his air time to get that veteran aviator badge. So, Player 2 grenades Player 1. yea, we've all seen this scenario hundreds of times.

So, here's my brilliant idea!!!

Put a visible radius around the vehicle. Make this radius large enough to cover the spawn points. If you're in that radius, you're immune to TKs. Also, and just as important, add a second smaller radius around the vehicle. The player who gets inside that radius first has first dibs on the vehicle. Put a time limit on whether he gets in or not. If he doesn't get in the vehicle in 30 seconds, the next player in the radius can get in, and so forth. That way, it becomes a race to see who can get to the radius first. you loose, you snooze.

The vehicle does not have to actually be there for the radius to be there. We all know that people queue up for vehicles when they could be out helping their team win, but nonetheless, the radius queue system could still avoid TK's. It would make the game more efficient. If you spawn and go to an area where a tank spawns, but you see a player already waiting there with a symbol or color noting that he's "queued", then you might as well move on to more productive things.

This idea would be a great implementation in BF3. I'm sure its too late for BF2.

[buteonidae]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

OK, picture this scenario. 2 players spawn at beginning of a map, or heck, even in the middle of a match. They both bolt for that J10 that's patiently waiting in the hanger. Player 1 is in front of Player 2, but Player 2 is a bit more greedy, and desparately wants to build in his air time to get that veteran aviator badge. So, Player 2 grenades Player 1. yea, we've all seen this scenario hundreds of times.

In this situation I would TK anyone trying to get to the J10, and then blow that piece of sh|t up.

Or, as I sometimes do, if I happen to be on the team where the J10 is, and if I can't change teams (so I could get to fly the lovely F35B), I would take the J10 and fly around doing **** all.


kthnxbi.

[The_Eliminator]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

I think it would be easier if to get into planes you had to go up a single width set of steps like you do in real planes, whoever is at the top of the stairs gets first dibs on the pane.

[SirCyRo]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

My point was for ALL vehicles. I've had people TK me to get in a rib! No joke!

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

Wouldnt work.

You can go prone and literally push people away from the sweet zones. You could push people off the marked zone in notime.

[imported_kiwi]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

I'd guess that marked zone would be large enough to push away. So as long as you are interested you wouldnt allow to push yourself back

Anyway it makes another problem. How would you force your teammates do something else instead of waiting in line? Would you like to be the only one flying and 31 teammates waiting in line? lol

[signa]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

How about making it so if you TK, your unable to enter a vehicle for 30 or 60 seconds. Also make it so that a plane taking off, cant TK people standing in front of it.

[ElFipso]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

or...play IO

just think about PR, it's an annoying system but it works quite good. just create limited kits for vehicles. If you want to fly/drive you need a special kit. If there's no more kit available it means all vehicles are taken anyway. If some vehicle guy dies you get the newly available kit. Of course you cannot take the ability to fly/drive from fallen/tk'd teammates.

just my two cents

FipZ

[[Expletive Deleted]]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

What would work well, but they would never do, is have lines set up like at an amusement park. You know, the bars where you have to stay behind the people in front of you and it turns back and forth on itself.
Make it so you can't TK anyone inside the bars, and you can't push forward but you can walk back out if you want, giving up your place in the line.
It would be the most efficient way of queuing up and if they made it to only allow a certain amount of people in line maybe the people that don't fit would get a clue and go do something else.
Also, it would be a way of quantifying a general wait time. With the current system if someone jumps over your shoulder and gets in a spawning vehicle you're back to square one, waiting for another to spawn. You have no real way of knowing how much longer you'll be waiting.
I think if people saw that there would be a minimum of "X" time before they got the asset, they might go ahead and find something else to do. Of course, since some people last longer in vehicles than others, the wait time would still vary a bit. But vehicles spawn at a fixed rate.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

How about making it so if you TK, your unable to enter a vehicle for 30 or 60 seconds. Also make it so that a plane taking off, cant TK people standing in front of it.

Simple idea works best, this would undoubtedly work 100%. If only coupled with a small change that if you exit the vehicle and noone has entered it, the kills and TKs from that vehicle are still yours for the duration of 2-3 (X, whatever) seconds.

[imported_Elder]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

Doesn't seem to be a problem anymore since the majority of servers these days have turned FF off. Even if TKing for vehicles could be prevented it wouldn't prevent the vehicles from being used by incompetent and under-qualified idiots the majority of the time, which is the real problem.

Although it will never happen it would be great if the general population of BF2 retards would just stop trying to get in the planes and helicopters to begin with. If there is someone better than you on your team why even compete with them for usage of vehicles you aren't going to utilize? I've never understood why when my team is getting absolutely destroyed by air power that the nubs still love waiting for planes, being fully aware that they are useless in them. That's why I loved competition so much, it was understood that the best pilots took the planes. No waiting in line, or worries of getting tked or having to tk to get the plane, simply the person best suited for the job did the job.

Pubs are absolutely frustrating when you know you're leaps and bounds ahead of anybody in the server yet you're stuck waiting at the airfield, getting tked, or having to switch to some other role the entire round while getting raped by enemy air just because of stubborn nublets who insist on learning to fly in pubs at the expense of others.

/rant

[Alex6714]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

Doesn't seem to be a problem anymore since the majority of servers these days have turned FF off. Even if TKing for vehicles could be prevented it wouldn't prevent the vehicles from being used by incompetent and under-qualified idiots the majority of the time, which is the real problem.

Although it will never happen it would be great if the general population of BF2 retards would just stop trying to get in the planes and helicopters to begin with. If there is someone better than you on your team why even compete with them for usage of vehicles you aren't going to utilize? I've never understood why when my team is getting absolutely destroyed by air power that the nubs still love waiting for planes, being fully aware that they are useless in them. That's why I loved competition so much, it was understood that the best pilots took the planes. No waiting in line, or worries of getting tked or having to tk to get the plane, simply the person best suited for the job did the job.

Pubs are absolutely frustrating when you know you're leaps and bounds ahead of anybody in the server yet you're stuck waiting at the airfield, getting tked, or having to switch to some other role the entire round while getting raped by enemy air just because of stubborn nublets who insist on learning to fly in pubs at the expense of others.

/rant

I sort of agree with you, but I´m guessing they are playing for fun which is kind of the point of the game, however good you are. However, anyone who TKs for anything better have a damn good reason, or should be banned from any server in my opinion.

[Rugerdog]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

Yeah the best way to solve something like this is good admins, but they are starting to get rare nowadays.

[AmericanDad]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

they should reinstate the 60 second spawn penalty per team kill that was the rule in bf vietnam!! why they replaced that with in bf2 with a gay 'tk punish' that nobody cares about is beyond me.

[Bald-Eagle11]

Re: Just had a brilliant Idea to stop TK for vehicles

Who Tk's for J10's theese days ,, Eryx at the jet and you dont get punished by the player .... Opps did I just say that .