ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

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  • wardogHk

    #1

    ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

    Okay, I am pretty sure there was a similar thread but i never saw it so i tought it could be interesting. I just want to give my opinions about the game armors that arent the same depending in what side you are ( EU, PAC )

    Tanks:
    Type 21 Nekomata: I think its by far better then the Tiger. Why you might ask, because you can, first of all, move and doge incomings alot easyer and ambushing or retreating with the 21 is just a piece of cake. Also if you have a minimum of Knowledge in Tanks tactics you know that your rear is the weakest point, so with the Type 21 you can always face your target without being a big juicy kill for EU engineers. And if you learned to shot while moving you become a movable target, making you harder to kill.( I have learned with the time to never go into tight buildings or capture silos when it might be infested with engineers cockroaches .)
    But in other ways the type 21 really sucks when you are in accidented ground so I always try to stays on roads. And some times it slides but thats no big deal for me.

    A8 Tiger: Prolly the only advantage you get using this tank is the stability, its a mobile cannon that wont slide like the type 21. And its is more stable in accidented grounds. But except those 2 little advantage i think its pretty worthless Vs the type 21. Also the Tiger is way bigger then the T21.
    Oh and dont get the good idea of stopping in a hill with the Tiger or you will be a gonner ....

    APC's
    BTR-4 Romanov: Great APC, when you have a good squad that can actually stick in it since the driver gun cant hit near targets. F3,F4,F5 and F6 and great when you need to protect your APC in tight roads or buildings, but once again i never saw anyone protect me from RDX recons while I am busy doing what i have to do.
    AMV-2 Groundhog: I have to give the credit to this APC since hitting and spotting incoming infantry is alot more easer. But I only give the point to the groundhog because i usually end up alone in my APC capturing silos.

    Walkers: In overall i think there pretty similar.
    T-39 Bogatyr: I mainly prefer the AA turret.
    L5 Riesig: Sometime the 2x chain gun is more useful against infantry IMO.

    FAV's
    UAZ-8 Ocelot: I like the fact its smaller then the MK-15 Bandit.
    MK-15 Bandit: nothing against it.

    Basically I prefer the PAC vehicles. Especially the PAC air transport.

    Thats about it, i would like to hear what you guys think. If i forgot something ill be happy to hear it. Thank you for taking the time to read my tread.
  • =MNKY=Frosty
    Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 1079

    #2
    Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

    PAC Tank > EU Tank (Obviously)
    PAC Car > EU Car (It's faster Speed wins)
    EU Gunship > PAC Gunship (EU one has better acceleration)
    EU Walker > PAC Walker (Chain gun rocks)
    APC's meh they're basically equal

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    • Wizrdwarts
      Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 3754

      #3
      Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

      EU tank is much better at long range. Obviously rushing in and strafing like with the Type 32 doesn't work as well with the Tiger, but it can still be done.

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      • serevalassassin
        Member
        • Sep 2007
        • 97

        #4
        Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

        Originally posted by =MNKY=Frosty
        PAC Car > EU Car (It's faster Speed wins)
        You've also got to consider that EU car comes of alive against pac car in a ramming situation

        More seen in scrims.

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        • Fingulfin
          Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 1433

          #5
          Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

          You guys know nothing of the APCs...

          EU APC > PAC APC.

          I am still considering whether or not I should let you in on a (not so secret) tactic that only the EU APC and EU Tank can do.

          Ok, fine, I'll tell you... You know how the Goliath is invulnerable to motion mines that hit it's front plate? So are the EU APC and EU Tanks. Just approach them with some speed, and they will all go *pow* on the front of your vehicle and do no damage.

          WARNING: Don't you even think about trying this in a PAC Tank/APC, the rounded fronts still take damage

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          • ZinZ

            #6
            Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

            PAC walker seems to be more designed for Infantry. The EU walkers rockets are better though, as they don't go to the side.

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            • imported_Field
              Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 2234

              #7
              Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

              EU walker takes a big poop on the PAC walker

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              • Skates
                =NfB=
                • Dec 2006
                • 857

                #8
                Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                The PAC FAV also bottoms out constantly causing damage to it while the EU FAV rarely does. Drive around Suez in the FAV's and you'll see the difference.

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                • Lunien

                  #9
                  Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                  Skates, what do you mean "bottoms out"??

                  Anyways, my comparison:

                  Walkers: EU chain gun seems to be much more effective at killing infantry, but larger weakspot at the bottom. EU AA also creates less splash than PAC AA, if i remember correctly.

                  Advantage: EU

                  APC: Both have small weak spots (The part that does the most damage). They're relatively even, but I'll give EU the advantage as the side seat gunners (F3-F6) do not get their view restricted as much as the PAC one does. The Romanov also seems a lot bouncier than the AMV...that's personal opinion.

                  Advantage: EU

                  Tank: On maps with some tight spaces (Suez, Minsk), PAC wins hands down for its maneuverability. But on larger maps like Shuhia and Highway Tampa, the Tiger excels at being an artillery platform, but movement is still restricted compared to the Neko. PAC tank does suffer from having a huge weak spot though, while the Tiger's is harder to hit. However, one can crawl under the Tiger, but not the Neko (I know not many people do it, but half the time I crawl under an APC or tank to place RDX, so this is kinda personal).

                  Advantage: PAC

                  Gunship: Talon has weird geometry, may or may not affect hitbox issues now (Unsure if the imbalance is totally fixed). As for speedwise, I'm not sure, never tested.

                  Advantage: Tie

                  Transport: Not much to be said, but EU's right side gun doesn't work.

                  Advantage: PAC

                  FAVs: The EU FAV turret seems to a bit less accurate than the PAC one, since it fires out of two guns instead of one. The PAC buggy seems more prone to flipping though, especially when hitting a ramp full speed.

                  Advantage: PAC

                  Have fun

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                  • Nobite
                    Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 17

                    #10
                    Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                    EU tank = best for sniping, can shoot sides while moving to another direction,
                    PAC tank= IMO better in armor vs armor , you can flank and get behind an EU tank with only exposing your well armored front to the enemy, kinda sucks in engineer\recon infested places.

                    APC's = pretty similar .

                    Walkers = same but i like EU walker looks\machineguns\sound

                    Gunship-EU gunship a little faster i think,dunno if pac gunship has any advantage, +EU engine looks awesome.

                    FAV's - like the EU one looks better

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                    • Dtneter
                      Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1158

                      #11
                      Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                      Advantage of pac fav is that those recon people cant jump under your car unless they manage to make a dolphin dive over your vehicle (if i see that im gonna kill myself)

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                      • Chris--My--azz
                        Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 664

                        #12
                        Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                        tanks = type 21 by far simply because you can strafe

                        apc's = groundhog since it is smaller and has a greater field of vision

                        walkers = reisig by a mile , it can shoot thru fences the pac one can't also it's rockets fly in a straight line wheras pac ones seem to go in random directions:S

                        fav's = ...whats to say theyre pretty much the same EDIT- pacone has lower ground clearence so better for running n00bs down :evil:

                        gunships = talon by 9 squillion miles as it has a bugged hitbox that makes tracking rockets fail 60% of the time also the doragans shields are bugged so the talon can shoot through them also 60% of the time

                        transports = sheperd also by a massive difference ... it may only have one gun most of teh time( i have seen the other one work !!!!)
                        but the guns on the pac transport are useless ; slow rate of fire, overheat too quick and are hugeky unstable ... they just shake for no reason :S

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                        • Wizrdwarts
                          Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3754

                          #13
                          Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                          It's Type 32 btw. And isn't the Romanov skinnier than the Groundhog? Also I prefer the PAC transport guns since there's no spinup time and more splash. But against FAVs and other aircraft EU gun is better if the pilot can keep him in your field of fire.

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                          • l33tfodder
                            Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 322

                            #14
                            Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                            Skates, what do you mean "bottoms out"??
                            It's in the word, due to extensive suspension travel the bottom touches the ground making the vehicle less manoeuvrable. Usually due to limited ground clearance.

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                            • imported_Field
                              Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 2234

                              #15
                              Re: ARMORS: EU vs PAC.

                              yeah the PAC fav is faster cooler looking. Therefore its not as usable in as many environments as the blocky, ugly looking EU fav.

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