sniper help

[Gio]

Imo, don't use the Zeller unless you like waiting about 5 seconds more between each shot, use the Park Sniper since I read that you like being on the PAC on Berlin it's almost the same not as much damage but still the zeller takes 2 shots to kill someone unless its a headshot so you might as well use the Park Sniper or Moretti they both have a better Rate of Fire I guess you can say than the Zeller.
And just practice and get into the habit of following the person around with your Sniper scope until they stop then take your shot, or if theyre running and you're far away move your crosshair a bit farther ahead and fire and they would most likely run into the bullet.

[RichardDawkins]

use stock rifle and gruber, make sure you are hidden. learn how far to lead running targets, with ping<20 you need no lead. try to flank the bigger battles, cos if you can spot an enemy aiming at someone else, he should be dead within a second. hide in random places that people don't check every time they walk along... so avoid cranes and building tops that you know to be hot. don't get shot

[StoneCold313]

I guess that i'll have to join in to the conversation. :)

There is some really good tips in this thread already. So there isn't much for me to do.

- You just have to "feel" when to shoot at the runner.

- Use the stabilizer. It's gives you an advantage in Sniper vs Sniper duels, and it let's you zero in on the runner faster.

- Stock or Zeller? Matter of personal preference, both have their pros and cons. Test them both, and use what fit's better for u.

- Practice with torso shots to runners. Once you have figured that out, it's really easy to take those headshots.

If someone can post pic of the sniper scope, i can show what i used to measure the lead to runners.

That's the few pointers i can come up with. I have played the game like 5 min after COD4 came out, so im "bit" rusty. I bet that i can't hit even static enemies anymore...

[GunHappyBob]

You have the concept down you just need to practice timing. Play singleplayer so you can practice or find a few friends to practice with on an empty server. Just learn to anticipate where they will be and in how much time it will take them to make it to that spot. Just aim at a spot ahead of time and wait until they are almost there and pop off a round. They only obsticle is the timing, everything else is pretty straight forward.

[MohicanGR]

Sticking with hooah's thread then - is it a definite no-brainer that as a sniper you should always pick the Zeller? I am hopeless online as a sniper - I just can't get the rhythm.

Against the bots - that's a completely different story. I do think that the connection speed you have (and your target has) as shel10 said, is a major factor. With literally zero lag in single player mode - even sprinting bots are easy pickings with a Zeller.

Very true, the ping issue is a MAJOR one if it is much greater than 50ms: a running enemy runs about 20 km/h or 5.55m/sec. A 50ms lag means at least 100ms delay for your "bullet" between where you think it hits and where it actually is. On the other hand, a mid-range shot at 300m distance takes 250-300ms in BF, maybe less in 2142 because of non-realistic ballistics. Still, the network lag ads about 30-35% more delay than you aim for and you will probably miss your target by 1-1.5m even with perfect aim. Sadly, this is why I don't play much with recon, I like long-range snipping but my network connection sucks

If you want to practice from zero, better start with single-player (sorry, no points there) to master your shooting skills, then move to on-line with Lambert in single-shot mode in close and mid-range sniping, then stock sniping rifle, then zeller. The last one is good only for very "noisy" spots where they cannot detect you from sound and for long-range squad support (especially for MM, anti-sniper support, etc). Also, learn to use the advanced scope and the stabilizer, they are a major advantage against real players.

[messfeeder]

Just keep moving. After a while the enemy will get smart to your location and your really cool secret sniper spot won't be so secret anymore. Don't go prone unless you are hiding. It takes too long to stand up and run if something goes wrong. I like to punish prone snipers if I can by Pilum sniping them.:p Crouching is almost as effective as proning , but you won't be as much of a sitting duck. If I am hiding behind something, I crouch, then stand to see over it to take the shot. You could also prone to hide, then crouch, fire your shot, then prone again. Get in the habit of proning or crouching right after your shots to stay hidden.

Search for videos on youtube. Every chump who figured out how to download fraps has made a video. Some of them are pretty good. You can learn a lot from watching other people.

You will also get better just with experience. For a while I was getting pretty good at sniping on BF2 before I quit playing. I could hit targets from really far away allowing for bullet drop. After a while you get good at judging how much space to allow for travel and bullet drop. Just keep at it. I still have this screenshot of a guy I shot out of a moving buggy from really far away.

[DesmondLocke]

Nice shot there Mess. I don't think I would have even considered taking that shot in BF2. I'm so used to having a zoom in 2142, that would have been a difficult shot for me. Though, not having the rifle drift in BF2 might help a bit.

[Twizzz]

All good help here. Thanks !

[messfeeder]

Nice shot there Mess. I don't think I would have even considered taking that shot in BF2. I'm so used to having a zoom in 2142, that would have been a difficult shot for me. Though, not having the rifle drift in BF2 might help a bit.

Yeah, and BF2 had crazy bullet drop. Up to a certain distance you didn't need to account for it, but some shots I would be giving like 1/2" on screen for bullet drop. Those were some long shots! Enemy probably didn't even know what hit him! But if I went back to BF2 there is no way I could make those shots again.

[BandoIruka]

another style of play for recons is joining and infantry squad and being a designated marksman. You rely on squadmembers to keep you safe from close ranged attackers but your purpose is to provide mid to long range fire support for your teammates. You hang back abit where forward squadmates draw fire from enemies, giving you easy headshot opportunites on those proned or crouching enemies

[messfeeder]

It's so hard to find squads like that. But when you do you never want to quit playing!

[BandoIruka]

I just stopped playing from one of the best rounds of sniping ever. Got me a gold recon badge in the process, which would had been even better if i was not a Brigadier general already.

-First off, I admit i was terribly impatient at sniping down my targets and ended up body shooting most of my targets. But i still managed to get 2 infiltrator pins.
-I used the zeller and active camo during the long sniping streak of at least 10 kills. Active camo really helps disappearing from the counter snipers and moving from cover to cover. Zeller is good for damage potential, but thinking back, i was lone wolfing that round and should had used the stock sniper rifles.
-Constant relocation. This is what keeps them from finding you and allow you to strike from unexpected angles. Make the most out of your active camo to travel as far as you could while unseen. The NS unlock that allows your camo to run for longer periods really help.
-Its ok to snipe from obvious sniping spots as long as you don't stay there for too long. Find the enemy, get in position, take your shot and relocate.
-Despite the blurring, you can still make out enemy soldiers from a reasonable distance while under active camo.
-Don't get too close to the enemy or let them get too close to you. It increases the chances of them finding you and ruining your mischief
-Move around through areas where there is very little traffic. Helps to keep out of sight, from bumping into enemies and decreases the chances of coming under UAV
-Don't cap silos or flags, especially if there are enemies around. Doing so is asking to get yourself killed. Thats the job for your teammates with other kits.
-Keep your eyes open. Its the enemies that you don't see that are dangerous to you. They are dangerous because they can shoot you or because they can netbat your location to other enemies.
-If possible, don't let your enemies know that you have Active Camo. Become fully cloaked and then move. That way, enemies that think that they have found you will be very surprised when they rush up to your last known location only to catch no one but your bullet to their head.
-If you do have the misfortune of being rather close to an enemy, and you've put yourself under AC, don't go sprinting away because sudden movements of your blurr will still catch their eye. Crouch or crawl yourself away. Surprisingly enough, its harder to see a recon under AC if they are behind a bright background rather than a darker one.

With abit of skill, luck and favourable circumstances, gold recon is quite possible for snipers. I was lucky cos i had a few knife, a few pistol, a few explosive and a few vehicle kills to push my kill count over 30 and then the round ended.

[Lunien]

Eh, I'll add one more piece of advice for the sniper - get good with your pistol, VERY good, you'll need it, and later you'll be quite comfortable going in with it if you ever need to in CQ. Learn to really rapid fire the pistol - this, coupled with a surprise advantage (Which you should try an obtain everytime), makes it easier for you to take down a clarker or a vosser; without the surprise, its doable, just not as easy.

[Chris--My--azz]

if it's sniping then i shall direct you to a god in human form ..the legend of soane
[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=j49fWB4hiWo[/media]
he is truely awesome ... a kd of 5.38 for a sniper whore thats not bad by any standard !
watch them all they are excellent videos

[Dtneter]

The big advantage with eu pistol is you can really shoot 10 bullets in less than a second (atleast I can) I had people complaining I used a mouse hack because of my fast shooting.