A couple of things I would like in a patch

[FPS[SONIC]]

Yep, but these are not birding guns, these are combat shotguns. They are meant to do immense close quarters damage. That is the role they have in this game.

CoD4 is not a simulator. It is a game. The shotgun should not and does not replace the rifle, but if you could shoot accurately at 50 feet for a kill, you'd just take the shotgun with you all the time.

[bbfYoUGoTServeD]

Yep, but these are not birding guns, these are combat shotguns. They are meant to do immense close quarters damage. That is the role they have in this game.

CoD4 is not a simulator. It is a game. The shotgun should not and does not replace the rifle, but if you could shoot accurately at 50 feet for a kill, you'd just take the shotgun with you all the time.

I AGREE!! ^^

[Ozendorph]

Fair enough, games don't always have to equate to real life, but to suggest that a shotgun (combat or otherwise) is ineffective at 30 feet is insane.

But I digress.

One other small change I'd like to see is a point reward for downing enemy choppers. Nothing huge...just 5 points or so.

[FPS[SONIC]]

I guess I'm insane. I don't know about you, but I've used combat shotguns...

From WikiPedia (red emphasis is mine)

The combat shotgun has evolved from its original role as a short range combat weapon into a wider role in modern times. With proper configuration, ammunition and training, the modern combat shotgun plays three roles:

1. Offensive weapon
2. Breaching system
3. Less lethal crowd control

Effective range of the shotgun with standard buckshot is limited to about 30 meters with a full stock, and 10 when equipped only with a pistol grip due to the difficulty in accurately aiming without a full stock. Slug rounds, if available, can extend the effective range of the shotgun to 100 meters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_shotgun
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[Ramm]

lawl...owned?

[Ozendorph]

Right. "30 Meters." That over 90 feet. Twice as far as we were discussing.

Math is hard?

If you'll look up a few posts, I said I'd like the shotgun to be more effective in the 10-20 meter range...well inside the maximum effective range listed in that article.

[bbfYoUGoTServeD]

Right. "30 Meters." That over 90 feet. Twice as far as we were discussing.

Math is hard?

If you'll look up a few posts, I said I'd like the shotgun to be more effective in the 10-20 meter range...well inside the maximum effective range listed in that article.

With the risk of repeating myself, shotguns, as sniper rifles SHOULD ONLY BE USED on specific maps!!! The fact that people still use 'em on other maps is their own problem, crying about it should not happen in this case. Case closed. :P

[Cantina_Fly]

-Server filter for Hard Core and Old School

-Weapons are fine for now, leave them.

-Buddy system, both out of game to show you who's on, and in game to show you which side they're on and let you group up with them some how. BF let you spawn on your SL. Doing something similar and put a weighted preference for spawning you close to the largest group of your buddies. A color coded mini-map is a great idea also.

[FPS[SONIC]]

Right. "30 Meters." That over 90 feet. Twice as far as we were discussing.

Math is hard?

If you'll look up a few posts, I said I'd like the shotgun to be more effective in the 10-20 meter range...well inside the maximum effective range listed in that article.

Listen, I'm (that's me, SonicPixel) not trying to prove you wrong. I've already stated my case that the shotguns are effective at the range they need to be for this game.

That 30m in the WikiPedia is max effective range, not optimal engagement range. Shotguns are meant to engage the enemy at close quarters, not snipe the enemy off a balcony.

If you engage a tango at 50ft in-game with a shotgun, you'll hit him and do damage, but nothing close to killing him. I'm fine with that because you should have used a longer range weapon or not engaged that target. I believe that both shotties are well-balanced and good performers in the game.

[Ozendorph]

That's fine, and thank you for googling a wiki article that served to strengthen my argument. I'd still like the shotguns to be more effective at 10-20m. We'll have to agree to disagree on that point.

Anyway, what do you think of a small points-reward for downing enemy helicopters? I don't mind taking the time to kill them "for the team", but it seems strange that you don't get rewarded for fulfilling a rather important task.

[LMSsnagglepuss]

i would like to have a perk that enables you to have 2 attachments on your gun like the reflex sight and a silencer and stuff like that and maybe some of the weapon scopes they were used in single player.

[Speckled_Pants]

Sorry if its already been mentioned, but i couldnt see after a quick scan....

A longer multi player name, or a seperate thing for your clan tag. Once you have your clan tag in, or add colours theres not much space for anything.

[bbfYoUGoTServeD]

Sorry if its already been mentioned, but i couldnt see after a quick scan....

A longer multi player name, or a seperate thing for your clan tag. Once you have your clan tag in, or add colours theres not much space for anything.

How was this not mentioned before?!?! THIS IS ALSO A MUST!!

This is how my name should be in-game: :{bbf}:YoUGoTServeD , and I just wish ... now it's just :{bbf}:ServeD or :{bbf}:YgS , still cool, but not my real name. :shakehead

[Speckled_Pants]

How was this not mentioned before?!?! THIS IS ALSO A MUST!!

This is how my name should be in-game: :{bbf}:YoUGoTServeD , and I just wish ... now it's just :{bbf}:ServeD or :{bbf}:YgS , still cool, but not my real name. :shakehead

Yeah i cant have my full name, there was more space available in cod2 as i was able to add various colours too

[imported_Whiskey]

Longer player names, and server names would be good.

More filters/icons in the server browser (hardcore mode, countries, etc).

I wouldn't mind an additional fire-select-mode that would let every weapon function in single-shot mode, instead of having to only do a quick key tap.