Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

[Marveric]

Yep, I finally *managed* to get my first purple heart yesturday and a new death streak of 15 because of this stupid mechanism. I started playing Wake Island recently and I joined a Wake Server (the BBUK one to be exact) and I get dumped on the Chinese team with 1 spawn left, 3 jets dropping bombs everywhere with a heli and arty pounding it. What the heck is wrong with this? Maybe that was the worst but every time I'm either on the chinese side and we're pushed to the airfield or some other place with most of the island gone, or I'm on the US with J10 whores baseraping the airfield.

It's not my fault that team is losing, I just joined the damn game, but why do I have to get spawn raped and get a new death streak? This autobalance thing really needs to be reconsidered.

At least for people who just joined the game... for the people who've been in the game at the start or from when the first flag was capped they can still have it applied, but if every time I join a server I have to get spawn raped for 15 minutes and get a 15 deaths or sit there for 15 minutes and do nothing and most likely get banned for being AFK... then this is just stupid.

[DontKnockIt225]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Wake island is a bad map for good stats. Always one sided, and which other side dominated, rules the game.

My advice is when china at start of round, grab tank and hold the airfield, just defend and do not move.
If you join a game and get raped in 1 base, leave server, its not fun playing this. Or dont spawn if near end of round.

[Steppenwolf428]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

i loves teh wake, i dont worry bout stats to much. umm.. be a squad leader so u dont get kicked

[vesuvan]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

When you join a server, you are placed on the team that has fewer people. This is normally a good thing, but in cases when the teams are say 25 to 12 (clearly unbalanced), then you are dumped on the team that's probably getting raped.

Another thing that I CONSTANTLY see are stacked teams. Teams where the majority of the high rankers jump to the same team and then own up the server. Granted rank doesn't always reflect skill, but 80% of the time the team with the greater number of higher ranks is winning.

It's impossible to make a perfectly balanced match because there are simply too many factors to consider. I think in the end it comes down to quality admins to enforce balanced teams, but that truly is rare.

I honestly don't care if I'm on the loosing or winning team, I just want a nice, fair & close match (like within 75 tickets of each other).

[ConscriptVirus]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

yeah i hate how usmc gets raped usually in the beginning of a wake round. wat i usually do is try to pilot my own BH cuz i hate having noob pilots bring my doom and hten get to the beach or one of the middle flags. once USMC has a flag, the game is fair.

and if i the usmc is getting raped, i just hide on the side of the carrier (where it goes down a bit..idk wat it's called) and usually artillery and j10s wont kill u there.

[=98=]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Lol, so it was you i was raping in my J10. It's not even worth spawning when you have one flag left, let us take it.

Don't worry, our server isn't always like that, it often evens up when your American.

[LightBred]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Yep, I finally *managed* to get my first purple heart yesturday and a new death streak of 15 because of this stupid mechanism. I started playing Wake Island recently and I joined a Wake Server (the BBUK one to be exact) and I get dumped on the Chinese team with 1 spawn left, 3 jets dropping bombs everywhere with a heli and arty pounding it. What the heck is wrong with this? Maybe that was the worst but every time I'm either on the chinese side and we're pushed to the airfield or some other place with most of the island gone, or I'm on the US with J10 whores baseraping the airfield.

It's not my fault that team is losing, I just joined the damn game, but why do I have to get spawn raped and get a new death streak? This autobalance thing really needs to be reconsidered.

At least for people who just joined the game... for the people who've been in the game at the start or from when the first flag was capped they can still have it applied, but if every time I join a server I have to get spawn raped for 15 minutes and get a 15 deaths or sit there for 15 minutes and do nothing and most likely get banned for being AFK... then this is just stupid.

someones mad they got stomped.:nod:
we really need a sob story section.
disconnecting works wonders.

[Marveric]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Wake island is a bad map for good stats. Always one sided, and which other side dominated, rules the game.

My advice is when china at start of round, grab tank and hold the airfield, just defend and do not move.
If you join a game and get raped in 1 base, leave server, its not fun playing this. Or dont spawn if near end of round.

Sorry but how is that relevant? I wasn't at the beginning of the round...

someones mad they got stomped.
we really need a sob story section.
disconnecting works wonders.

Sure, join a different server and just be raped by different people?

[=98=]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Lol, i've been on the receiving end of rape. So, i go play IO and go back later.

What was your in game name btw Mav?

[LightBred]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Sure, join a different server and just be raped by different people?

Sounds like player error on your part then? Get better or continue to get your *** handed to you?

[Marveric]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Sorry but I don't possess the skill to guide an AT missile into a flying jet, I can only hit ones on the runway Maybe you can teach me to hit one in the air?

It wasn't near the end of the round, we had 150 tickets left. If it is I don't spawn, but 150 tickets is a long wait time... and it takes me 5 minutes to load into a different server so I don't want to spend all my time loading another server that is most likely being spawn raped too... the BBUK one is one of the few servers where they actually enforce no attacking the carrier, all the other ones have arty and ATV's on the carrier shooting.

I know wake is an extremely one sided map but it's the only map with a lot of air space <_< I haven't noticed rank stacking on one side too much, but all you need is 2 good pilots to own the other team really... can't really do much if they shoot everything before it reaches the island or bomb everything defending the island.

I'd just like something that maybe punishes leavers with something like -10 points so they don't quit in the middle of the map, and players who just joined can pick a team instead of being stuck on the team being spawn raped with 1 flag left. Joining a squad does stop being switched but the autobalance switches you over before you have a chance to make a squad...

And alex it's .Marveric^

[LightBred]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Sorry but I don't possess the skill to guide an AT missile into a flying jet, I can only hit ones on the runway Maybe you can teach me to hit one in the air?

It wasn't near the end of the round, we had 150 tickets left. If it is I don't spawn, but 150 tickets is a long wait time... and it takes me 5 minutes to load into a different server so I don't want to spend all my time loading another server that is most likely being spawn raped too... the BBUK one is one of the few servers where they actually enforce no attacking the carrier, all the other ones have arty and ATV's on the carrier shooting.

I know wake is an extremely one sided map but it's the only map with a lot of air space <_< I haven't noticed rank stacking on one side too much, but all you need is 2 good pilots to own the other team really... can't really do much if they shoot everything before it reaches the island or bomb everything defending the island.

I'd just like something that maybe punishes leavers with something like -10 points so they don't quit in the middle of the map, and players who just joined can pick a team instead of being stuck on the team being spawn raped with 1 flag left. Joining a squad does stop being switched but the autobalance switches you over before you have a chance to make a squad...

by the time you waited out 150 tickets you could have connected to 3 different servers or more.

And if you could just pick a team like that? Then people like you would only join the winning team regardless of fairness or stacking.

[davelisowski]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

You can just not spawn.

Wait for a new game to start.

[FPS[VT_NERD]]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

There is a better version of autobalance called smartbalance. It's an option in BF2CC, but you won't find many servers using it because servers that have it turned on do not show up when people select the autobalance filter in the server browser.

You can set whether or not commanders, squad members and squad leaders are switched. Basically you can make it switch lone wolves first, then squad members, then leaders and so on. It can be told not to switch people wearing specific tags (great for clans that want to play together). I wish we could use it, but the server doesn't fill up so good when AB is off so we just keep AB on and smartbalance off.

[Chris_Redfield]

Re: Autobalance really needs to be reconsidered

Im willing to bet youre pissed because of the purple heart.
If youre being raped, just "dont" spawn. Use the X ticker on the spawn screen, spectate the rape and drink your coffee.

Remember, when in doubt, always whine on the forums.