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State of the art Vista machine - Graphics Lag and CTD
Hi guys,
I tend to harp on in threads so ill try to keep it simple yet thorough and answer questions as they come along.
My setup:
Vista Ultimate 32 bit.
Intel QX6850 (4 x 3.0Ghz)
Asus Stiker Extreme Mobo
2GB Corsair 6400 Dominator
2 x Nvidia 8800GTXs (SLi)
1000 Watt PSU
30" Dell (2560x1600 resolution)
Raptor 72Gb HDD
Ill try to explain the situation in chronological order but I am at work some of the details (i.e. hotfix KB numbers are unavailable at the moment)
I had Vista running with an E6600 CPU and 1 8800GTX and the system ran fine with about 60FPS.
I got my second 8800GTX and SLI'd and the systems FPS did not increase and BF2 became unstable with CTD's and Memory DLL errors (I used to get them now and then but now it was happening almost every map (on some servers))
I assumed the E6600 which was defiantly bottlenecking my FPS was causing the problem so to my dismay I jumped on the net and purchased the best CPU there was (last week - I’m sure there’s something better now) an Intel QX6850.
After the hardware upgrade, went into safe mode, wiped all GFX drivers and installed the latest Nvidia Drivers. (162.xx or 163.xx not sure right now)
Booted back into Vista Ultimate 32, enabled SLi again (which caused another reboot) and the machine seemed to be ready.
I ran 3dMark06 to make sure the upgrade and driver install was done correctly and my mark went from a measly 11000 to over 17000 and my FPS were over 100.
Great I thought, now the system is ready to go.
I loaded BF2 and after 1 map the game crashed with the memory problem.
I loaded it up again and it played a few more maps but the crashed again with the memory problem.
I loaded it again and then the lag kicked in on Strike at Karkand with FPS (Fraps installed) dropping to 1-10, sound became choppy and I exited the game (which even took at least a minute for the menu to pop up after pressing ESC).
Not the right forum but I will add it for more info, I also run the POE2 (Point of Existence) MOD and there is a map called "Assault on Odessa" which is so laggy and choppy I press ESC as soon as it loads and takes about 5 mins for the menu to load up. (When others with lower spec can play it fine)
I did some reading and after reading a few things complaining about memory errors with BF2, SLI and Vista I did the following (gets a little sketchy here as I cannot remember the exact order of things):
Applied the C++ fix for memory (in command prompt)
Applied the BCEDIT thing for memory.
Installed the Microsoft Hotfix for Vista and DX10 and Multi-GPUs (which I know is irrelevant to this DX9 problem)
Installed the Microsoft patch (which is going to be included in the update which will be released on the 14th of August) which is meant to increase performance and reliability for Vista and 3D applications (or something like that)
Rebooted a few times (after the installs) and then loaded BF2 in anticipation.
Exact same problems - GFX lag, choppy sound and constant CTD Memory DLL errors.
I did some more reading and saw that I should change the sound settings in BF2 from Software to Hardware.
I reapplied the C++ and BCEDIT fixes (as I thought I may had done it wrong), changed the sound in BF2 from software to hardware and rebooted for good measure.
I loaded BF2 and HEY PRESTO!!
It worked, all my maps were much quicker getting around 100-150FPS (Even Assault on Odessa on POE2) and no more Memory DLL crashes!!!
This glorified moment was short lived.
The game crashed suddenly in the middle of a game, no errors, nothing just quickly and quietly disappeared and nothing more than my naked desktop was sitting before me.
I assumed it was a once off, continued to play and the same thing kept happening, I did some more research and found that the maps which lagged/slowed/chopped up the graphics and sound were still a little laggy (although much better). Going back to the perfect example of the POE2 map "Assault on Odessa" it was going good on about 70FPS but would regularly drop to 10-20 when a lot of stuff happened like a Plane flew overhead or a tank rolled past. This also happened a lot on other big/complicated maps like "Strike at Karkland" and "Fushee Pass" (or whatever it's called)
So I'm now left with this state of the art machine which randomly CTD's with no errors and has GFX lag whenever a lot of stuff is happening in BF2.
I will lastly add that my resolution is always on 2560x1600, my GFX settings on BF2 are all maxed out and I refuse to drop it because I shouldn't have to. (with a £3000+ system that is)
I personally suspect dodgy sound drivers or something sound related.
I just want to check with the community first before I wipe my system and install XP.
Sorry about the big post but I wanted to include EVERYTHING.
I tend to harp on in threads so ill try to keep it simple yet thorough and answer questions as they come along.
My setup:
Vista Ultimate 32 bit.
Intel QX6850 (4 x 3.0Ghz)
Asus Stiker Extreme Mobo
2GB Corsair 6400 Dominator
2 x Nvidia 8800GTXs (SLi)
1000 Watt PSU
30" Dell (2560x1600 resolution)
Raptor 72Gb HDD
Ill try to explain the situation in chronological order but I am at work some of the details (i.e. hotfix KB numbers are unavailable at the moment)
I had Vista running with an E6600 CPU and 1 8800GTX and the system ran fine with about 60FPS.
I got my second 8800GTX and SLI'd and the systems FPS did not increase and BF2 became unstable with CTD's and Memory DLL errors (I used to get them now and then but now it was happening almost every map (on some servers))
I assumed the E6600 which was defiantly bottlenecking my FPS was causing the problem so to my dismay I jumped on the net and purchased the best CPU there was (last week - I’m sure there’s something better now) an Intel QX6850.
After the hardware upgrade, went into safe mode, wiped all GFX drivers and installed the latest Nvidia Drivers. (162.xx or 163.xx not sure right now)
Booted back into Vista Ultimate 32, enabled SLi again (which caused another reboot) and the machine seemed to be ready.
I ran 3dMark06 to make sure the upgrade and driver install was done correctly and my mark went from a measly 11000 to over 17000 and my FPS were over 100.
Great I thought, now the system is ready to go.
I loaded BF2 and after 1 map the game crashed with the memory problem.
I loaded it up again and it played a few more maps but the crashed again with the memory problem.
I loaded it again and then the lag kicked in on Strike at Karkand with FPS (Fraps installed) dropping to 1-10, sound became choppy and I exited the game (which even took at least a minute for the menu to pop up after pressing ESC).
Not the right forum but I will add it for more info, I also run the POE2 (Point of Existence) MOD and there is a map called "Assault on Odessa" which is so laggy and choppy I press ESC as soon as it loads and takes about 5 mins for the menu to load up. (When others with lower spec can play it fine)
I did some reading and after reading a few things complaining about memory errors with BF2, SLI and Vista I did the following (gets a little sketchy here as I cannot remember the exact order of things):
Applied the C++ fix for memory (in command prompt)
Applied the BCEDIT thing for memory.
Installed the Microsoft Hotfix for Vista and DX10 and Multi-GPUs (which I know is irrelevant to this DX9 problem)
Installed the Microsoft patch (which is going to be included in the update which will be released on the 14th of August) which is meant to increase performance and reliability for Vista and 3D applications (or something like that)
Rebooted a few times (after the installs) and then loaded BF2 in anticipation.
Exact same problems - GFX lag, choppy sound and constant CTD Memory DLL errors.
I did some more reading and saw that I should change the sound settings in BF2 from Software to Hardware.
I reapplied the C++ and BCEDIT fixes (as I thought I may had done it wrong), changed the sound in BF2 from software to hardware and rebooted for good measure.
I loaded BF2 and HEY PRESTO!!
It worked, all my maps were much quicker getting around 100-150FPS (Even Assault on Odessa on POE2) and no more Memory DLL crashes!!!
This glorified moment was short lived.
The game crashed suddenly in the middle of a game, no errors, nothing just quickly and quietly disappeared and nothing more than my naked desktop was sitting before me.
I assumed it was a once off, continued to play and the same thing kept happening, I did some more research and found that the maps which lagged/slowed/chopped up the graphics and sound were still a little laggy (although much better). Going back to the perfect example of the POE2 map "Assault on Odessa" it was going good on about 70FPS but would regularly drop to 10-20 when a lot of stuff happened like a Plane flew overhead or a tank rolled past. This also happened a lot on other big/complicated maps like "Strike at Karkland" and "Fushee Pass" (or whatever it's called)
So I'm now left with this state of the art machine which randomly CTD's with no errors and has GFX lag whenever a lot of stuff is happening in BF2.
I will lastly add that my resolution is always on 2560x1600, my GFX settings on BF2 are all maxed out and I refuse to drop it because I shouldn't have to. (with a £3000+ system that is)
I personally suspect dodgy sound drivers or something sound related.
I just want to check with the community first before I wipe my system and install XP.
Sorry about the big post but I wanted to include EVERYTHING.
:yay:
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