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  • System
    Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 1091

    #1

    Skill or hardware?

    Hey, before I get started I'm just going to varify that when I say hardware, I'm referring to your keyboard/mouse/joystick.

    Well I have pondered this question a few times and I proved it to myself today. Last week I was stuck playing with my G5 mouse while it was broken. For those of you who are not familiar with this mouse, it has 3 dpi (sensitivity) settings. The decrease button broke and it kept going to the highest setting when I joined the game.

    Having nothing better to do after work on a week day nite, I said f it, I'll play anyways. I was sucking a lot at first but then I got use to the setting and was doing OK.

    A few days ago Logitech mailed me my new G5 under warranty. I hooked it up and BANG! The difference is clear. You can have skill but with out the proper hardware to get you there it won't shine. Having the right hardware makes the difference between mowing down more ppl or donating you corps on the streets of karkand

    With a bad mouse I was getting 20-11, 40-23 or ratios like that anyways, Not bad but room for improvement. After hooking up a new G5, dun dun dun duhhhhh 32-2, 25-3...

    So I'm convinced that I need the G5 otherwise my skill would be in the pits. I also use the G15 - purely for the LED light up letters and multimedia player controls and reliability. I used another keyboard with sthe blue led light up keys and multimedia player controls but it was like a laptop keyboard and the buttons broke FAST. Poor quality? Yes.

    What I'm really killing people with is not my ak-101 or L85 or M2. No, its been my trusty combination of G15 and G5 thats been keeping me alive and the enemy dead =D

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    Ok, I forgot to put in that this is also based upon experience from previous mice too. I use to an optical mouse with no dpi changing mods and got skooled more often than when I did the skooling. My mouse before that was a Ball mouse. It was ok but flying wasn't it's best sport. And finally, the mouse I have been saving for the end is some Fatal1ty piece of shlt optical mouse. It too had 3 dpi settings but I did horrible with it.


    ps. J10 is such a noob toy anyone could fly it out and own. I use it too on wake island but after playing wake for 333+ hours I finally realized its a lame map. I/o was the best thing to happen in BF2 - Now if only EA will make a zone around the flag where gaymore wh0res cant place there gaymores. Woah, game improved 150%
  • Steelclash

    #2
    Re: Skill or hardware?

    Well in your case, clearly anyone that is out of their "element" isn't going to perform to what they are used to.

    IMO, skill or hardware, would come down to system performance in terms of FPS. High FPS = easier to play, easier to frag, etc. It affects almost all aspects of the game. Given equal skill, the player with better FPS and less lag will come out on top.

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    • XmetallicaXguitarstX
      Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3014

      #3
      Re: Skill or hardware?

      Dude, there is a difference between broken hardware, and different hardware.. you can't compare a piece of broken hardware to having 2 different pieces of hardware.

      Personally I have a G15 and MX518 (skipped the G5 cause back then it only had 1 thumb button.. now the new one has 2 and I want it.. lol).. Idk why you would play any worse with a G5 that had it's "decrease sensitivity" button broken.. you can still go into setpoint and change the maximum sensitivity to your preference.

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      • camper.
        Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 3459

        #4
        Re: Skill or hardware?

        I disagree.

        It's all about the key mappings.

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        • System
          Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 1091

          #5
          Re: Skill or hardware?

          Originally posted by Steelclash
          Well in your case, clearly anyone that is out of their "element" isn't going to perform to what they are used to.

          IMO, skill or hardware, would come down to system performance in terms of FPS. High FPS = easier to play, easier to frag, etc. It affects almost all aspects of the game. Given equal skill, the player with better FPS and less lag will come out on top.
          Ok, Yes I was out of my "element" but thats part of my point. It's all in your mouse and keyboard (what your use to) thats lets you have fun.

          As for FPS and ping, I stated I wasn't comparing that. Even so, I read that some people play with 30-50 FPS. I use to play with 40-99 on med/high settings. Yes ping hurts when it goes over 170 but otherwise its fine and I did/do alrite. My new computer is faster but the gameplay feels the exact same. What gives me my edge is a mouse with 3 modes of sensitivity. Make it one mode permentally and I have a tough time.

          Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
          Dude, there is a difference between broken hardware, and different hardware.. you can't compare a piece of broken hardware to having 2 different pieces of hardware.

          Personally I have a G15 and MX518 (skipped the G5 cause back then it only had 1 thumb button.. now the new one has 2 and I want it.. lol).. Idk why you would play any worse with a G5 that had it's "decrease sensitivity" button broken.. you can still go into setpoint and change the maximum sensitivity to your preference.
          Rephrase "broken" with "working but not 100%"

          And your right too about that, I can't. I should have mention the other optical mouse I used before and even before that mouse I used a ball mouse! Surprisingly I did good with the ball mouse up until the ball sensitivity gave up.

          As for setpoint, I got my mouse under warranty from Logitech meaning I had to call to them, explain to them the issue and troubleshoot. Yes, I went into setpoint and failed to lower my settings. They ask you to do all kinds of things before they send you a free replacement =P

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          • RYKUU
            Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 2352

            #6
            Re: Skill or hardware?

            dude how do you get such a high K/D ratio?

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            • System
              Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 1091

              #7
              Re: Skill or hardware?

              Originally posted by RYKUU
              dude how do you get such a high K/D ratio?
              L85... Great gun on long distance shots. It's like an SVD with better accuracy and med packs for when your hurt. =D

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              • Sneaky

                #8
                Re: Skill or hardware?

                Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
                Dude, there is a difference between broken hardware, and different hardware.. you can't compare a piece of broken hardware to having 2 different pieces of hardware.

                Personally I have a G15 and MX518 (skipped the G5 cause back then it only had 1 thumb button.. now the new one has 2 and I want it.. lol).. Idk why you would play any worse with a G5 that had it's "decrease sensitivity" button broken.. you can still go into setpoint and change the maximum sensitivity to your preference.
                You will go back to the MX518 after buying that new G5, trust me.

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                • ham_411

                  #9
                  Re: Skill or hardware?

                  Originally posted by RYKUU
                  dude how do you get such a high K/D ratio?
                  whats his nick then?

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                  • waaah_wah
                    TEAM BLADE!
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3656

                    #10
                    Re: Skill or hardware?

                    Originally posted by System
                    L85... Great gun on long distance shots. It's like an SVD with better accuracy and med packs for when your hurt. =D
                    Are you on crack? L85 may be accurate and all that but SVD will kick its butt every time. When you shoot witn an SVD your shots fly where you want them to. When your shooting with an L85 even on single auto they will go wherever they want. You have the crosshair on a guys head, hold it steady there for a while, shoot and BAM you hit his leg...

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                    • System
                      Member
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 1091

                      #11
                      Re: Skill or hardware?

                      Originally posted by waaah_wah
                      Are you on crack? L85 may be accurate and all that but SVD will kick its butt every time. When you shoot witn an SVD your shots fly where you want them to. When your shooting with an L85 even on single auto they will go wherever they want. You have the crosshair on a guys head, hold it steady there for a while, shoot and BAM you hit his leg...
                      Well obviously the problem is with you and not the gun because I disagree. But then I can't play with the SVD worth a shlt either so it seems you and I are on opposite sides of the fence.

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                      • Ins

                        #12
                        Re: Skill or hardware?

                        I got a crappy standard keyboard and a 3 button mouse, left middle and right.

                        Keyboards and mice with extra keys are for people with slow fingers =p

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                        • old sch00l
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1087

                          #13
                          Re: Skill or hardware?

                          Hardware!.. you think the medic in the sig above, acheived that!!, BY ACCIDENT :laugh:

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                          • imported_Neptune
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 1021

                            #14
                            Re: Skill or hardware?

                            i dont know, i dont see how getting a better mouse will improve my k/d ratio... i play on full 64 pubs, so i always get killed when its 2v1. i have a regular Dell mouse & keyboard and i do just fine... hell ive seen cashiers use those in convenience stores.

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                            • old sch00l
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 1087

                              #15
                              Re: Skill or hardware?

                              Razer :salute:

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