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  • imported_bigpappa
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 2159

    #46
    Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

    Originally posted by Churrasco
    Extreme unbalance against choppers maybe?

    and a circling MEC chopper of doom is balanced?

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    • .Churr.
      Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 1166

      #47
      Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

      Originally posted by bigpappa
      and a circling MEC chopper of doom is balanced?
      Yes it is. When it comes to chopper dogfighting at medium-far distances the AH-1Z has an advantage over the Mi-28.

      The only map where the MEC chopper is really good is Sharqi. Even so, whenever I play Sharqi I can keep the Mi grounded for the whole round 98% of the times (with the USMC chopper).

      EDIT: How are obscene avatars like yours allowed?

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      • Kapukluk

        #48
        Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

        Jeez, jets are fun to use. But yeah, if you don't want jets, that's why there is SF. I love jets!

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        • imported_bigpappa
          Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 2159

          #49
          Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

          Originally posted by Churrasco
          Yes it is. When it comes to chopper dogfighting at medium-far distances the AH-1Z has an advantage over the Mi-28.

          The only map where the MEC chopper is really good is Sharqi. Even so, whenever I play Sharqi I can keep the Mi grounded for the whole round 98% of the times (with the USMC chopper).

          EDIT: How are obscene avatars like yours allowed?

          so u are saying a stinger kit with the AT is a good idea?

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          • .Churr.
            Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 1166

            #50
            Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

            Originally posted by bigpappa
            so u are saying a stinger kit with the AT is a good idea?
            No, I am answering your question.

            "and a circling MEC chopper of doom is balanced?". Yes it is.

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            • Sloi sauce

              #51
              Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

              Stinger? As in, transportable AA !? Are you ****ing mad?! That's the ONLY kit people will be using, regardless of what kind of small arms it's given! LOL...

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              • imported_bigpappa
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 2159

                #52
                Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                Desert Combat had stingers and it worked out just fine...maybe if they had just one and it took like a minute to rearm/recharge. that way there would be no stinger whores:)

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                • |GRB|Sarge

                  #53
                  Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                  BF42 didn't need IO mode, and neither did BFV as there were maps that were designed to be primarily infantry based. In addition, there was a diverse mod community that created maps that were essentially infantry only as well. That hasn't happened so much with BF2, although PoE has infantry maps, as does the Project Reality Mod.

                  One of the great things that BF42 used to have that BF2 doesn't is server side modding. You could very easily mod your server files to add or subtract vehicles and change the capabilities of those vehicles. I haven't seen that in BF2, but it may exist, I don't know.

                  As for getting the choice to get rid of certain types of vehicles...why not. It adds some diversity to the game and allows a more customized game play that maybe gets some of the people away from the urban maps. I wouldn't play these types of servers every day, but who knows.

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                  • BulletToothTony

                    #54
                    Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                    Originally posted by Chevy-SS
                    It's ruining the game 'cause now most of the damn servers are Karkand and Jalalabad IO. Much harder to find other "standard" games with decent amount of players and different maps.

                    This is great if you like IO, but sucks for everyone else.

                    The Battlefield series (BF1942 & BF2) wasn't designed or promoted as IO. If it was, I wouldn't be complaining, but now they changed it radically, so I'm complaining, and so are lots of other folks.

                    Rent your own server and make it a vehicle server. And all these other folks that are complaining. Maybe you should get on vehicle servers instead of coming hear to complain. If sooooo many people are upset about IO, why are the vehicle servers empty? So again I don't see how me playing IO stops others from going into vehicle servers. They are out there, being payed for by people who like to have control over what they play. Unlike some people here who seem to like to have something to complain about.

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                    • Chevy-SS
                      Member
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 165

                      #55
                      Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                      Originally posted by ECGNBulletToothT
                      ........ Unlike some people here who seem to like to have something to complain about.

                      Excuse me if I think the world is not quite perfect yet. Maybe soon it will be, and then I can finally stop complaining, LOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

                      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                      • Sloi sauce

                        #56
                        Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                        Originally posted by bigpappa
                        Desert Combat had stingers and it worked out just fine...maybe if they had just one and it took like a minute to rearm/recharge. that way there would be no stinger whores:)
                        No, it still wouldn't work for two reasons:

                        1- People would run around in groups of two or three, with a designated "flare dropper", at which point everyone would unload. It's another way of introducing mobile AA. Add to that, basecamping and other assorted nonsense, and you have a completely idiotic idea on your hands.

                        2- Helicopters already have to contend with IGLAs, mobile AAs, jets, helicopters, jeeps AND AT kits: how the f*ck does it make ANY sense to add another threat? Jesus guys, come on! Even ground troops don't have that much to deal with.

                        Portable AA is f*ckin' stupid.

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                        • SERIALBUTCHER

                          #57
                          Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                          Originally posted by maggot.se
                          Hi all,
                          What do you guys think about this for BF2? Please vote.


                          - maggot.se


                          An extract from the voting-thread:
                          One of the latest patches made it possible for server-admins to disable
                          vehicles. A good idea, but I wonder what it would be if one modified this
                          one and added another check-box aswell, so it looked something like this:
                          - Disable vehicles (land)
                          - Disable vehicles (air)

                          The idea of disabling "air-vehicles" (all kinds of heli's and jet's) would
                          enable four (4) different ways of gameplay: All vehicles enabled, no land
                          vehicles, no air-vehicles and finally everything disabled (except the RIB:s
                          off course).
                          To the OP, the 2nd mode makes me laugh, air vehicles, but no ground vehicles?????, that would be the most unbalanced mode ever LOL

                          imvho

                          Lieutenant General |SI|SERIALBUTCHER

                          peace:)

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                          • .Churr.
                            Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1166

                            #58
                            Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                            Originally posted by Sloi
                            No, it still wouldn't work for two reasons:

                            1- People would run around in groups of two or three, with a designated "flare dropper", at which point everyone would unload. It's another way of introducing mobile AA. Add to that, basecamping and other assorted nonsense, and you have a completely idiotic idea on your hands.

                            2- Helicopters already have to contend with IGLAs, mobile AAs, jets, helicopters, jeeps AND AT kits: how the f*ck does it make ANY sense to add another threat? Jesus guys, come on! Even ground troops don't have that much to deal with.

                            Portable AA is f*ckin' stupid.
                            Amen brother !

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                            • Chevy-SS
                              Member
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 165

                              #59
                              Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                              Originally posted by Sloi
                              ............... Helicopters already have to contend with IGLAs, mobile AAs, jets, helicopters, jeeps AND AT kits: how the f*ck does it make ANY sense to add another threat? Jesus guys, come on! Even ground troops don't have that much to deal with......
                              I concur. I think air power is unbalanced, but (as stated) not choppers. At least you can shoot chopper down with everything mentioned in your post, good balance there.

                              The air problem is the jets. A good jet pilot is virtually invincible......

                              -

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                              • Sloi sauce

                                #60
                                Re: Voting: The possability of disabling aircraft/helis on servers?

                                Here's a funny way of adding balance in regards to the jets: give the attack helicopter pilots a secondary firing mode with 2 reloadable A2A missiles. We could target some of the jets and fire on them! Nah, too much of a pain for helis :)

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