Air to ground armor should be fixed!

**ConscriptVirus** · 10-24-2006, 09:51 AM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

its for balance..because if jets didnt take out tanks enuff, then tanks will rule the maps and then ull have ppl complaining about how tanks are too powerful

**Bubas** · 10-24-2006, 10:17 AM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

There is a simple solution...the square only appears if the tank/Apc is spotted.

**Shepherd007** · 10-24-2006, 10:40 AM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Originally posted by daliup

Give some defence mechanism for tanks??

There's already a defence mechanism in place. Two in fact. 1) Your own side's air power should be taking out your opposition. 2) AA-vehicles should be a part of your armored column defending against helos and jets.

Spot the jets to help out your own flyboys, and move constantly in open terrain. If you see a plane coming at you, move perpendicular to his flight path. Tanks are fine in BF2.

**SERIALBUTCHER** · 10-24-2006, 11:51 AM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Originally posted by daliup

Ok I've just started using tanks to get my badge that I need for my next rank. And I've noticed how unbalanced and fking ANNOYING air to ground armor is! Everyone I've bombed from the air in the past I feel their pain.

On open maps it's impossible to drive around with tanks because jets can see you as a squer target from miles away and you have no defence! Tanks are like sitting duck waiting to be shot

Dice/EA should really fix this! Making so that jets can't see targets on the ground (no squar box) so they'd have to rely on mini-map more? Though, this could result in too many accidental TKs.

Give some defence mechanism for tanks??

Seriously... it sucks pants!

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You then also have attack choppers asttacking you and as well as AT kits... youre just trapped!... quiet offten a sniper will start shooting at you :laugh: giving his/hers position away and letting me blast him/her into air :laugh: poor souls...

Play karkand, & Warlord

LG SB

peace:)

**XmetallicaXguitarstX** · 10-24-2006, 12:03 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Man you're a pilot... you should know better.

If the tanks keep taking you out, your jets need to do something.

That's the only effective counter for jets, other than teamwork with the AA. And let me tell you, if there are a bunch of people who know how to use the AA, jets will be shot down. You can't just sit in the AA and expect to live (jets have you show up in the box).

But also... picture yourself in a jet trying to bomb armor.

When a jet faces a tank like it's going to bomb it, the tanks buzzer goes off (I don't know if you knew that or not). So try to reverse directions.. be as random as possible... etc.

You just need to use your head and it will be fine.

**Cromat** · 10-24-2006, 12:39 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

My solution vs air assets is to play karkand :-)

**Mekstizzle** · 10-24-2006, 12:57 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

The LGM's on the bomber are un-avoidable, once it's got tone and the pilot is in a good position and the co-pilot fires. That missile will hit its target, even if it misses by about 10m or so you're still gonna get fried. Those missiles have the biggest blast radius of anything in the game (i think, but a string of 5 bombs is also quite strong, but not really as condensed)

Really though, they are easy targets for other aircraft. A medium pilot in a fighter could take out even a very good jet pilot in a bomber.

I think POE2 did good by adding "flares/chaff" to the smoke so that it disrupts the LGM's lock, like how AA works. But yeah, if they have a good pilot and a competent co-pilot in their bomber and you have nothing to threaten them then you're gonna get blasted.

**Screaming_Bunny** · 10-24-2006, 01:09 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Exactly! I tend to play AA alot, and let me tell you, I've smoked alot of planes and choppers. I will sit back from my squadmates and wait for the plane or chopper to come in, lock on and wait for him to drop his flares, wait for the secound lock and BLAM-O! No more pilot. Your teams AA should be covering the skys along with your jets. If they are not, then yes, tanks are crunchy little targets for the bombers. They also, should not be at the front lines at all. Time and time again I see players grab an AA and go racing off in to battle only to die withn 30secounds.

Originally posted by metallicaguitrst

Man you're a pilot... you should know better.

If the tanks keep taking you out, your jets need to do something.

That's the only effective counter for jets, other than teamwork with the AA. And let me tell you, if there are a bunch of people who know how to use the AA, jets will be shot down. You can't just sit in the AA and expect to live (jets have you show up in the box).

But also... picture yourself in a jet trying to bomb armor.

When a jet faces a tank like it's going to bomb it, the tanks buzzer goes off (I don't know if you knew that or not). So try to reverse directions.. be as random as possible... etc.

You just need to use your head and it will be fine.

**zipp0r** · 10-24-2006, 01:34 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Originally posted by metallicaguitrst

When a jet faces a tank like it's going to bomb it, the tanks buzzer goes off (I don't know if you knew that or not). So try to reverse directions.. be as random as possible... etc.

thats news to me..... :laugh:

buzzer only goes off when bomber, tow or AT missiles are locking onto them.

normal jet bombs dont set the buzzer off at all!!

**Blades** · 10-24-2006, 02:17 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Originally posted by grena

There is a simple solution...the square only appears if the tank/Apc is spotted.

No not true in the slightest. The square is always there.

**imported_Rafterman** · 10-24-2006, 03:31 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

AA can be a lot of fun if you know how to use it. My favorite kills are the ones where the jet shoots by, I barely get a lock, fire my missles, they all disappear, and a few seconds later I see the kill indicator.

When the game first came out, AA was practically worthless and you were much more likely to shoot your own guys down, but with the most recent patches, it is pretty deadly.

Also, tell you own pilots to circle over your AA positions when they're dogfighting. If you've got multiple AA units and your air units working together, the enemy jets drop fast.

**Drunken_x_Boxer** · 10-24-2006, 03:48 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Originally posted by zipp0r

thats news to me..... :laugh:

buzzer only goes off when bomber, tow or AT missiles are locking onto them.

normal jet bombs dont set the buzzer off at all!!

Your right it doesnt but the red skull thingy still pops up. If your in a tank just pop smoke.

Also this thread sucks. Its just another I keep getting owned in this vehicle so you should nerf this to make it easier for me.

**buteonidae** · 10-24-2006, 03:53 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Originally posted by Drunken_x_Boxer

Your right it doesnt but the red skull thingy still pops up. If your in a tank just pop smoke.

Also this thread sucks. Its just another I keep getting owned in this vehicle so you should nerf this to make it easier for me.

You can go suck your own balls ****faces. Don't reply if you have nothing better to say. I simply have to use Armor at the moment and I've just noticed how easy it is to get killed by jets when using armor. Don't like the thread go suck yourself off.

**Redink** · 10-24-2006, 03:54 PM

Re: Air to ground armor should be fixed!

I think they should fix the part where your tank flack cannon hits a 5 miles per hour jet comming to bomb you super low and nothing happens but you get killed.

Air to ground armor should be fixed!

Air to ground armor should be fixed!

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