So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

Total time played: 870
Time using armor, jets, or helicopters: 106

K/D total across all infantry kits: 2.23
Overall infantry accuracy: 28%

You can read more here: http://bf2s.com/player/45527784/

Point being, I'm as qualified as anyone to give a review of this map. Trying to defend the map's poor design by telling me that I'm not the right kind of player for it doesn't help your case at all.

It's a spiffy little novelty map, but the degree to which you (and others) love it is still bewildering given its shallow gameplay. But like I said, maybe that's why you like it.

you sir, are a fool.

first of all you start a thread insinuating that if you like fallen you are somehow "high" or "stupid".

Then you say you have a right to your opinion. WTF are you smoking m8? There is a difference between sharing your opinion openly and blatantly preaching down to everyone.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion - but tht sure as hell doesn't give you the right to say that others who don't share your closed minded view are somehow under the influence or unable to form a non drug induced opinion.

Then you go and post your stats as if to validate yourself - im not going to even begin to say how tardish that is (stats mean sweet f all).

Your posting of this thread is so close to trolling its not funny. seriously m8 - think twice before you start typing in future.

[Bommando]

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

I love Fallen. I just prefer the range of engagement that Fallen offers. Most battles occur at medium range and it really encourages use of cover and tactical movement by your squad to get the job done. In fact, I have found that snipers are basically useless on that map. Too much cover for everyone else as well. While they are well covered, there is just so little to cover your flanks that they become knifebait. This is especially prevalent for the lone wolfers. I've picked up a great string of knife kills on snipers who don't roll with a squad. Sucks to be them. Every round I have played on TG has seen a very broad range of kit selection. The shotguns are especially deadly with their one-shot kills even at medium range. I also like the atmosphere and sounds. The water and woodpeckers are especially well done.

We usually have a good CO directing our attacks, so you don't run around all over the place. Squads advance to their given positions and bunker down in anticipation of the enemy. Lots of flanking and shifting of the battlefront to get bleed etc.

The map is pretty basic and linear, but like anything, it only gets old if you play it all the time. Karkand is a great map too, it's just ruined on ranked servers because people use the Hotel to farm points. Every map is enjoyable when squads are cohesive and soldiers follow the chain of command to achieve a common objective.

So far, I really like all of the PoE2 maps. First Snow and Guardian maybe a bit less so, but they all range from good to great in my opinion.

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

well i luv it

[EyeofG]

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

best friggin PoE map for me... No tanks, no air vehicles.. infantry combat FTW

It's pretty good
it's just the players suck

[GMEM]

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

best friggin PoE map for me... No tanks, no air vehicles.. infantry combat FTW

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

:laugh:

well played

[Odedge]

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

What's great about the map is it's simplicity and "level" playing field. You have a rolling forrest with lots of cover and a few flags. The enemy can come from practically any where so you must stay on your toes. There is nothing the other team has that you don't so victory should be based on skill and teamwork.

It's a balanced map where no team has the advantage by were they spawn or what fire power they can bring to the fight. BF 2 can get old fast if there is too much imbalance in your game (Tank fighting infantry more than other tanks). This can't happen in a map like this.

The atmosphere goes a long way for me and brings me back to my days of playing RS6: RavenShield. I like the BF series for the diversity of what you can do, but from time to time, a simple infantry only map is a breath of fresh air.

[EyeofG]

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

Try the TacticalGamer.com POE server. I doubt you'll find another POE server with a larger quantity of teamwork.(especially during US prime time which is when the majority of the community is on) Some of the main server rules posting in the loading screen should clue you in right away that the server will have some nice teamwork.

Fallen in particular is pretty fun because the squads will usually spread out to try capture bleed and they are all 6 man squads with all players in that squad working together.

Sounds cool
I will check it out

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

Who gives a **** about your stats. How about YOU state the design flaws. If your posing an argument you should give your side before you ask for everyone elses. In your post you said it takes the stuff away that makes BF what it is. WHAT? Fun? Because the BF to me has always been fun, and for me its FUN to have a change every now and then. Using the craters and stumps as cover when I spin 180 to find the squad that's firing at me brings excitment and FUN. Sure I like other maps, in my opinion Sunrise is the best. Oh you can chek teh statz I r the Oman playar.

:laugh:

[Alm()nd J()y]

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

Fallen gets a bit annoying IMO.

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

Who gives a **** about your stats. How about YOU state the design flaws. If your posing an argument you should give your side before you ask for everyone elses. In your post you said it takes the stuff away that makes BF what it is. WHAT? Fun? Because the BF to me has always been fun, and for me its FUN to have a change every now and then. Using the craters and stumps as cover when I spin 180 to find the squad that's firing at me brings excitment and FUN. Sure I like other maps, in my opinion Sunrise is the best. Oh you can chek teh statz I r the Oman playar.

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

It's an infanrty map. If you enjoy vehicles more then obviously it is not the best map to play. It's not really one dimensional as you put it. The thing about that map is that you never really know where you are going to get shot from so you have to pay attention.
I don't see why such a simple concept would create so much confusion for you. It's hard for beginners to get to an aircraft or armor in the 1st place. They always end up getting teamkilled for a jet or chopper so they end up ground pounding. In TWL matches for the mnost part your ground skills can make the difference in whether you win or lose a match. There is nothing weak about it, it's just not for you.

So, let me just simplify the point of your post

You think that I must dislike Fallen, not because the map has design faults, but rather because I'm not an "infantry guy", don't enjoy infantry battles and am thusly disqualified from offering a credible opinion on a map's design.

Seriously?

Did you miss the part in the original post where I encourage people to look at my regular BF2 stats for proof of my love for infantry? Look at my infantry performance, time played, and map preferences. And since you are having reading comprehension issues today, I'll even post some highlights:

Total time played: 870
Time using armor, jets, or helicopters: 106

K/D total across all infantry kits: 2.23
Overall infantry accuracy: 28%

You can read more here: http://bf2s.com/player/45527784/

Point being, I'm as qualified as anyone to give a review of this map. Trying to defend the map's poor design by telling me that I'm not the right kind of player for it doesn't help your case at all.

It's a spiffy little novelty map, but the degree to which you (and others) love it is still bewildering given its shallow gameplay. But like I said, maybe that's why you like it.

[Revoluti0n]

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

It's a big flat space with lots of underbrush and some trees. I consider it the weakest, most single dimensional map in the mod and I'm completely confused about why so many people love it.

My only theory is that it combines the simplicity of Counter-Strike with the linear nature of Quake deathmatch, and thusly, appeals to the mouth-breathing masses.

It's an infanrty map. If you enjoy vehicles more then obviously it is not the best map to play. It's not really one dimensional as you put it. The thing about that map is that you never really know where you are going to get shot from so you have to pay attention.
I don't see why such a simple concept would create so much confusion for you. It's hard for beginners to get to an aircraft or armor in the 1st place. They always end up getting teamkilled for a jet or chopper so they end up ground pounding. In TWL matches for the mnost part your ground skills can make the difference in whether you win or lose a match. There is nothing weak about it, it's just not for you.

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

Try the TacticalGamer.com POE server. I doubt you'll find another POE server with a larger quantity of teamwork.(especially during US prime time which is when the majority of the community is on) Some of the main server rules posting in the loading screen should clue you in right away that the server will have some nice teamwork.

Fallen in particular is pretty fun because the squads will usually spread out to try capture bleed and they are all 6 man squads with all players in that squad working together.

Yes definitly a good server for team play......we go here lots...

Re: So you guys like Fallen? Wow. What are you smoking?

fallen is a good map when you work as a team

Sure if you like rugby with guns. Which means running in a large circle, and plenty of friendly fire, this is the map for you. Its personal chioce, if you dig it, then it doesnt matter what other people think. You cant argue with opinions.

I want real Infantry maps, DC style. Urban Seige, Basrah (day and Night versions), and of course, Lost Village. Why were old maps perfect, and new teams cant sem to learn from them?