@ Indianscout, about ROE

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  • lostinspace

    #1

    @ Indianscout, about ROE

    Simpel question, yes or no answer please...

    "May a ranked server admin enforce a rule of no solo chopper..?"

    (if no-one wants to gun on my team)



  • Liam.

    #2
    Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

    Try the PM feature or the EMAIL feature

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    • Komet.nl

      #3
      Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

      Good question I am curious on what to will say.. May Solo-Chopper Pilots be kicked or banned? Then why may people in a F-18 be still flying without the Co-Pilot it's the same?

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      • lostinspace

        #4
        Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

        ThanX for the tip, indeed I perhaps should have...

        Although, I posted it here so everyone can see the answer...

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        • Eden

          #5
          Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

          Almost 80% sure that would be a yes. I'm fairly sure there is a rule in the ROE which states that your should not deliberatly do anything that would hinder your team, I would say solo choppering would fall under that rule.

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          • IndianScout

            #6
            Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

            you cant limit class or weapons so yes that rule is a violation of the ROE

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            • Cigar_Man

              #7
              Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

              I would say "NO" only because of this:

              2.3.1 Disallowed “In-House” Ranked Server Rules:

              Server Administrators may not implement or enforce server rules on ranked servers that prohibit players from using any roles, kits, weapons, vehicles or other features of the game while playing on their server. Examples of such rules that would violate the conditions of use are:


              Now if the solo pilot TK's someone or hangs them out of bounds, then they are in violation of the ROE themselves if the server has the rule posted:

              2.3.2 Allowed “In-House” Ranked Server Rules:

              Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to gameplay behaviour or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server. These rules typically introduce minor restrictions on how a certain aspect of the game can be used.

              (c) Players may not deliberately performing actions that hinder their own team (such as last-minute team-swapping to increase scores or statistics, excessive team-killing, destroying friendly vehicles, attacking team-mates,
              deliberately placing themselves in a situation so they cause another player to team-kill them, using a vehicle while being the Commander that prevents them from performing any Commander functions (jet, etc.) or placing vehicles to block their own runways.

              NOTE - I only copied rules that pertained to the question. The full ROE is posted here.

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              • lostinspace

                #8
                Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                Originally posted by IndianScout
                you cant limit class or weapons so yes that rule is a violation of the ROE
                ThanX you for this swift and public response about this issue Indianscout...

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                • « R²» HKS

                  #9
                  Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                  The part in the brackets totally changes the outcome of the rule. If no one else wants in the chopper then we won't kick them. The rare times that is the case say when the server crashes and there may be only 10 players on dalian and 4 helis. Same would go for an active commander. If the server player count is low we won't kick an active commander, say one helping to cap flags as well as commanding.

                  However when the server is full we expect them to pick someone up as I said in the other thread, they will be warned to do so otherwise we consider them to be hindering their team which is the reason they get kicked for. On a full 64 player there is "always" someone else who wants in the heli.

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                  • Cigar_Man

                    #10
                    Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                    LOL

                    Dang that was fast. There was only 1 post when I first started typing my responce.

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                    • davelisowski

                      #11
                      Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                      Originally posted by Sir. Eden
                      Almost 80% sure that would be a yes. I'm fairly sure there is a rule in the ROE which states that your should not deliberatly do anything that would hinder your team, I would say solo choppering would fall under that rule.
                      Define hindering. To me hindering would mean intentional TKing, taking a vehicle and not using it (like flying a jet just so the other team's jets don't get shot down), killing the commander, artillery drops on friendlies (excessive), and things like that. A chopper pilot who can solo and go 63-2 doesn't seem to be hindering the team, imo. One could argue that a gunner who uses the cannon on an AA vehicle causing the helicopter to repeatedly get shot down would be hindering the team. Same with noob pilots crashing their teams jets/helos every 15 seconds. Those players never get kicked (but they usually stop trying). I know this is all hypothetical and off-topic, but hinder is ambiguous in that section of the ROE (lots of ROE is actually).

                      If the server wants to have a no soloing rule, they can, but it must be posted just like any other rule.

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                      • IndianScout

                        #12
                        Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                        would flying solo in a helo be considered hindering your team?? I would say yes because you are keeping a team mate from using the gunners seat..

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                        • imported_Deliverance

                          #13
                          Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                          Theres your answer DooDah.

                          There is no yes or no answer, as with most of the RoE. You cant say yes or no.

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                          • lostinspace

                            #14
                            Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                            Originally posted by IndianScout
                            would flying solo in a helo be considered hindering your team?? I would say yes because you are keeping a team mate from using the gunners seat..
                            So I have to aks again...

                            "May a ranked server admin enforce a rule of no solo chopper..?"

                            (if no-one wants to gun on my team)

                            Couse now I might tell the admin (on the other side) noone wants to gun, and still get kicked for teamhindering..?

                            Be clear about this indianscout...

                            It's either a yes or a no...




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                              #15
                              Re: @ Indianscout, about ROE

                              Originally posted by DooDaH
                              So I have to aks again...

                              "May a ranked server admin enforce a rule of no solo chopper..?"

                              (if no-one wants to gun on my team)

                              Couse now I might tell the admin (on the other side) noone wants to gun, and still get kicked for teamhindering..?

                              Be clear about this indianscout...

                              It's either a yes or a no...




                              LOL!

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