Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

I give up on flags because its the same gameplay in the Battlefield series for over 4 years. Give us another form of objective other than damn flags, FFS!

Or you could not buy a game that clearly states the "objective" is to do just that as it relates to flags. It's not like a revelation or anything, the game has been about flags since the beginning. Find a FPS like quake if your objective is just to kill other players.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

This game is about what you want it to be about. I love how people throw out their opinions as if it's a law of nature. You paid $50 for this game like everyone else, do whatever makes you happy, just don't expect everyone else to reciprocate.

This is also true. You pay 50bucks for game that requires 1gb of patches to work so you should do whatever you want.

But the map briefing states that the objective of the game is to cause the opponents tickets to reach zero. This is done by holding all of the control points or the majority. It seems that people are ignorant to this or are just neglecting that.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

64 player karkand servers are like that.

Players know the best places to park armour inorder to get the maximum amount of kills without breaking the rules. There is also a hell of alot of nading and claymore spamming in those servers. It's all about points and no lone cares if they win or lose.

32 player karkand I can just about tolerate if I want some teamwork action. I go to a 64 rarely but not often. Alot of hackers play 64 karkand.

Yeah I agree. 32 players is probably the way to go for Karkand. 16 player size/setup isn't bad. But again with the servers and people that run/play it. Most of them are stat padding knife/pistol or infantry only servers.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

I give up on flags because its the same gameplay in the Battlefield series for over 4 years. Give us another form of objective other than damn flags, FFS!

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

This game is about what you want it to be about. I love how people throw out their opinions as if it's a law of nature. You paid $50 for this game like everyone else, do whatever makes you happy, just don't expect everyone else to reciprocate.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

He was probably busy supporting the other 31 players on your team who were trying to take the hotel.

Oh, and I don't see how the commander is supposed to save you from enemy artillery.

This should be fun. How exactly was he supporting them? Arty strikes where they were standing? Maybe he was dropping vehicles in the street in front of the hotel. Perhaps dropping supply crates where the enemy could use them as well? Maye he was busy and could not spare the time to do a spot over the factory. C'mon dude, any commander worth his weight can spot a flag without putting up a UAV. He could also order another squad to go attack a flag. Oh wait a sec... that would mean there would have to be squads and as I stated earlier, I was the only person in a squad.

Also, why would I think the commander could save me from arty? Did I say anywhere he could or anything along those lines... no I did'nt. Thanks for playing... move along now.

Come to 70.86.55.18 most nights you have to join a squad as maximum # of squads is reached. We appreciate TEAM players. G/L

I will do that, ty.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

I'm with Parish. Working on an overall victory is a lot more intesting than just going for kills.

I have also found that joining squads doesn't neccessarily help. Most squads just seem to be loose collections of lone wolf's.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

Come to 70.86.55.18 most nights you have to join a squad as maximum # of squads is reached. We appreciate TEAM players. G/L

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

I manage to avoid AT rockets and other vehicles and get all the way to the Factory and request a UAV and some support. Nothing happens. Maybe the commander did not see the request so I do it again. Nothing. I get the flag grey and then I get artied and die.

He was probably busy supporting the other 31 players on your team who were trying to take the hotel.

Oh, and I don't see how the commander is supposed to save you from enemy artillery.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

hehe i got more assist

Capture Flag 9,058
Capture Assist 6,013
Defend Flag 3,053

That made me smile, ty. You do have me there.

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

hehe i got more assist

Capture Flag 9,058
Capture Assist 6,013
Defend Flag 3,053

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

What's just as bad is when your MEC and your whole team refuses to stop defending the Hotel for some ungodly reason when the Factory has been taken by some clever flag-capper like us.
Then the gatehouse goes..or the train station..people die..respawn to defend the sacred Hotel...gotta keep the Hotel ya know..

But I feel your pain. Many times I've driven off the cliff and along the tracks to capture the rear flags by myself.

What also sucks is when you finally get people to come along with you..and they bail as soon as you get the slightest damage.
i.e. flying the blackhawk to the air base on wake island

They bail into the water..only to get shot down..and to respawn at the carrier..and there I am by myself at the airbase...running out of ammo..

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

trying to cap it, then getting grenaded. Again..

I think you've hit the nail on the head as far as capping the hotel is concerned. You know as soon as that flag goes grey, nades are gonna rain down a torrent of death. People would rather hang around and spawn kill....

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

It's the karkand map, we know all the spawn points and well.. let's stop for 2 seconds to get a couple kills under our stats belt before climbing that ladder, trying to cap it, then getting grenaded. Again..
I get a vechile if I can, and just drive as fast as I can to suburb, or gatehouse, or cement. Get on a turret gun of some sort and watch all corners. Teamwork is rare in these servers.

If I am mec, I will be at hotel spamming claymores and grenades, or reviving naded teammates. Do our best to defend and not let a single person past the entrance

Re: Isn't this game about teamwork and flags?

I kill my teammates for being stupid =)