Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

[Bizna]

I just reinstalled BF2 and I'm amazed the following still exist:

1. Dolphin diving.
2. Ineffective AA and air-to-air.
3. Commander's artillery and ability to see all enemies.

I just don't get it. You get in a firefight and the dude is popping around like a dolphin on crack. Wtf, how can you shoot while going prone?

Then you jump into a AA gun and get a lock on a helicopter. He chafes, turns and comes toward you. You put two stingers into him, he spams you, then goes back and repairs. Wtf, why is AA the air's *****?

And everytime an epic struggle breaks out, one or both the commander kills the party with the most skilless spam weapon ever. Or maybe you beat the odds and make it to a back flag when your team is down only to get *cheated* by dice's map hack and the everywhere-on-the-map weapon they give commanders. Omnipresent, invulnerabile, and unstoppable, those are NOT powers to give a player in an FPS.

I know that balancing a game is hard, very hard. But, I wonder if the Dice decision makers ever play on public servers at all, especially on the weaker side and not in an aircraft.

[zipp0r]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

typical nub

[Bizna]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

typical nub

Care to elaborate?

[zipp0r]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

if you had a good aim someone diving wouldnt bother you.

if you lock on a chopper with full health that knows your there and you stay there, you deserve to die. stingers should be used by hopping in and out, then running away to cover, or letting them get far enough away that they cant get to you in time.

air to air, are too good, not that you said owt about it in your post tho.....



commander assets are gay tho! :)

[$kelet0r]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

if you had a good aim someone diving wouldnt bother you.

if you lock on a chopper with full health that knows your there and you stay there, you deserve to die. stingers should be used by hopping in and out, then running away to cover, or letting them get far enough away that they cant get to you in time.

air to air, are too good, not that you said owt about it in your post tho.....



commander assets are gay tho! :)

lol what game are you playing??? :laugh:

[imported_matgn03]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

DD needs to go, and zippor clearly is a dolphin diver himself or he'd never say that. AA is fine though...i get kills with the AA all the time, there are a lot of noob pilots out there...

[imported_Phenomenomenon]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

And everytime an epic struggle breaks out, one or both the commander kills the party with the most skilless spam weapon ever. Or maybe you beat the odds and make it to a back flag when your team is down only to get *cheated* by dice's map hack and the everywhere-on-the-map weapon they give commanders. Omnipresent, invulnerabile, and unstoppable, those are NOT powers to give a player in an FPS.

Last time time I checked you could blow up artillery. Oh ya and the UAV trailer.... and the satalite too.

Don't mind the commander abillities. I do agree though a bit about the macro mechanics people are using as infantry. Surely that could be fixed.

[zipp0r]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

DD needs to go, and zippor clearly is a dolphin diver himself or he'd never say that. AA is fine though...i get kills with the AA all the time, there are a lot of noob pilots out there...

i am

i dont do anything of the sort you stupid muppet. i said its not hard to shoot people doing that. jumping, diving, prone spamming, none of it has ever bothered me in the slightest.

[Revoluti0n]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

I just reinstalled BF2 and I'm amazed the following still exist:

1. Dolphin diving.
2. Ineffective AA and air-to-air.
3. Commander's artillery and ability to see all enemies.

I just don't get it. You get in a firefight and the dude is popping around like a dolphin on crack. Wtf, how can you shoot while going prone?

Then you jump into a AA gun and get a lock on a helicopter. He chafes, turns and comes toward you. You put two stingers into him, he spams you, then goes back and repairs. Wtf, why is AA the air's *****?

And everytime an epic struggle breaks out, one or both the commander kills the party with the most skilless spam weapon ever. Or maybe you beat the odds and make it to a back flag when your team is down only to get *cheated* by dice's map hack and the everywhere-on-the-map weapon they give commanders. Omnipresent, invulnerabile, and unstoppable, those are NOT powers to give a player in an FPS.

Sounds like you want BF2 to be more like every other FPS ever made, especially like CS. I don't know what servers you ahve been playing on or where you have been the last year, but there have been several changed made to teh game with the last patches (1.3 excluded).
The addition of the role of commander is something that more people like than dislike, sounds to me like you are a little sour becuase you've ended up catching artillery with your noggin a few too many times.
On a different note, is there anything positive you can say about BF2 or was that pretty much the extent of your opinon?

[Jumintiger]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

Don't mind the commander abillities. I do agree though a bit about the macro mechanics people are using as infantry. Surely that could be fixed.

That's why they need to fix dolphin diving! Macros don't work unless the actual move works! Don't act like because they have macros they can dolphin dive all the time! Take away the advantages of having a G15 keyboard!

[Revoluti0n]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

This game has been nerfed and molested enough. It's fine the way it is. If someone doesn't like it, they do not have to play it.

[Dr_Zyklon]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

all i have to say is: survival of the fittest. if you cant make it with the changes made then maybe this game is too "hard" for you and should be playing halo or spendin time on myspace

[Bizna]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

Sounds like you want BF2 to be more like every other FPS ever made, especially like CS. I don't know what servers you ahve been playing on or where you have been the last year, but there have been several changed made to teh game with the last patches (1.3 excluded).
The addition of the role of commander is something that more people like than dislike, sounds to me like you are a little sour becuase you've ended up catching artillery with your noggin a few too many times.
On a different note, is there anything positive you can say about BF2 or was that pretty much the extent of your opinon?

Actually, I have a lot of good things to say about BF2, but why bring that up. I won't bore with a list, but I will say that the gun balance is very very good, and I am amazed they pulled off weapon upgrades as well as they did. This coming from the guys who came up with the M60 class in BFV (lol!) is quite a turn-around. etc. blah blah blah.

dolphin diving zippor says fire when the helicopter is far off and jump out of the aa gun and run like a *****. you know they put up trees and **** that breaks your lock? and, you have to wait for them to waste their chaffe. then you still have time to run away? sounds like zippor is the nub, well as far as doing something about the other teams' air in a tough game against good players.

[zipp0r]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

Actually, I have a lot of good things to say about BF2, but why bring that up. I won't bore with a list, but I will say that the gun balance is very very good, and I am amazed they pulled off weapon upgrades as well as they did. This coming from the guys who came up with the M60 class in BFV (lol!) is quite a turn-around. etc. blah blah blah.

dolphin diving zippor says fire when the helicopter is far off and jump out of the aa gun and run like a *****. you know they put up trees and **** that breaks your lock? and, you have to wait for them to waste their chaffe. then you still have time to run away? sounds like zippor is the nub, well as far as doing something about the other teams' air in a tough game against good players.

i learn from playing a game, eg if at first you run in a room spraying your gun everywhere, you will eventually learn to take it slower, picking off people one by one. you end up a better player.
similar happens with stingers (and other aspects of the game), hop in when they are going after something else, get your lock, wait for flares obviously... then shoot. stay in abit longer if theyre not coming for you...
just be one step ahead of the other guy and you will live!

you just got advice from a guy who's been playing for a year with like 1400hrs play time and 170,000 points. im far from a nub :laugh:

[sidtherat]

Re: Confused: after patches why do these still exit?

whatever one says there is nothing a skill can do to evercome crappy bf2 netcode that makes the dolphin diving so effective..

because killing DD oponent with 10ping is easy, with ping 100ms it is almost impossible with bullets