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  • Bungalow_Bill

    #46
    Re: new hack pack?

    I take hack accusations with a grain of salt because I myself am constantly being accused of hacks when rolling around in a tank or plane. Most of the time somone you think might be hacking is probably just a better player.

    As for my own little cheater encounter...

    Personally I've only see one person that I'm about 90% positive had some sort of hack running (didn't seem like an aimbot but just a basic wallhack or some other hack where he could see all the players nametags). The player in question I had seen before on the server. He was a l33t d00d type and while he was above average he wasn't anything all that special and on a side note he had teamkilled me for a vehicle a couple times (so you know the kind of no-rules care free person I'm talking about that doesn't care about their team). Well he dissapeared for a bit and I thought "Great sR admins must've finally banned him". Then a week or two later I see him again only difference is this time his score and speed of killing had tripled at least from the last time I had seen him.

    Now that's nothing odd because I go on 50+ player kill sprees all the time and especially when I'm in a vehicle but that wasn't the only red flag. At Karkand hotel at the fence he started using the APC gun and precision shooting 4 different players through the tin fence. I was his first victim and from my death cam I watched as a single shot ripped through the tin fence 4 or 5 times killing every player in a different location with total accuracy. The kind of accuracy that would've been impossible to achieve even with a UAV even though none was airborne. In other words this wasn't random spamming through the fence. I watched him also firing at players out of his visible range with great accuracy (IE: firing at players sitting behind crates/walls near hotel flag). As I am quite good with armor I know every little trick in the book for killing the maximum number of players but no trick I know would account for the shots this guy was pulling off.

    The final confirmation of cheating (in my mind) came when I tested him later at the suburbs. He pulled up to the flag in all too casual of a fashion in his APC (when I pull up to a dangerous flag like suburbs with a TOW missile I use extreme caution). I was on the wall to the east of the flag and as soon as I peaked around he started shooting me. So I decided it'd be a great time to test him. I walked all the way to the far end of the wall and stood at the very edge but being careful not to let any body parts or weapons stick out (the wall is too thick for that to happen either way). Sure enough the APC starts firing at the ground directly next to where I was standing concealed by the fence. No other players were around, no UAV overhead and no possible way he could've known my location. For one last laugh I went all the way down to the other end of the wall and peaked around. If by magic the second I peaked around the corner he was staring directly at the spot where I was about to emerge and began firing at me again.

    After that last encounter I remarked "Nice wallhack XXXX" towards the end of the round. Right after I said that he left the server and I haven't seen him since.

    Like it or not hacks do exist. Pretty much all these hackers are or will be banned. Problem is PB takes far too long to log and ban players. A cheater might be able to get away with a month or more worth of cheating before a GUID or hardware ban catches up by then. Unfortunatly for all legitimate players by that time the player who is now banned could've tainted many hundreds or even thousands of rounds.

    Originally posted by Wasp
    I'll mention the latest example from when I encountered a hacker...
    Hehe that's pretty amusing, I didn't even read your post before I made this post myself. Notice the almost identical situations we found ourselves in. I'm almost positive it's some kind of wallhack / all tags hack or something of that nature that also happens to work just peachy with armored vehicles (since they have splash and can shoot through some walls).

    Actually I more than suspect this because a couple days ago I encountered a player on the enemy team who flagged as a friendly (he had a tag I could see anywhere). I was in an APC and he was trying to kill me with AT rockets. It was a little cheap but I had no choice but to shoot at him. I felt sorry for the guy because he was getting fragged from miles away, around corners ect..

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    • Auto-ER-

      #47
      Re: new hack pack?

      Originally posted by paperlion
      90% of the people who say "you got owned" "stop crying" "get over it" on threads like this are hackers. The other 10% are morons.
      And 99% of players that cry hacks are sore losers.

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      • Jedi_Joe

        #48
        Re: new hack pack?

        OR just leave the server and tell BF: ROE his name and a screen shot of him hacking to get him BUSTED


        [EDIT, watch the language, really not needed]

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        • imported_BabySpinach

          #49
          Re: new hack pack?

          You need to play some infantry unranked, because in there, if you have no cover, you usually get killed by 1 or 2 bullets.

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          • imported_HisChadness

            #50
            Re: new hack pack?

            Originally posted by Auto-ER-
            And 99% of players that cry hacks are sore losers.
            Quoted for truth and great justice

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            • Ghilleman

              #51
              Re: new hack pack?

              I dont notice too many SMG headshots. If i am headshoted (new word yay!) I keep tabs on that player when they kill me. Sometimes its just luck. I got a headshot on an enemy sniper on karkand from across the river (he was on top of the trains) with the SCAR-L.

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              • imported_HisChadness

                #52
                Re: new hack pack?

                Originally posted by paperlion
                This thing has gone for a bit.

                I understand the lucky random shot.
                When I suspect hacking, I check the variables, and associated scoring.
                I would say I am correct 80%-90%.

                I also undertand that running and jumping over a wall, while firing your weapon. Is not in the game dynamics. As in mid air discharge of the firearm.

                The mid air headshot is my favorite so far. (MaH) No matter how they use it.
                It is my favorite.
                You can still fire your weapon while jumping, but there is no animation on the client end only server side where your oponent can see it happening. The only way you can tell that you've fired your weapon is by the decreasing ammo count.

                Originally posted by paperlion
                Back in the day I hacked playing CS. I know what a hack is, and what it does.
                Once a hack always hack.


                Originally posted by paperlion
                So back to the original question. Did the retards get a new hack pack?

                I posted this to see if anyone had noticed a surge in one shot kills and what not recently.

                90% of the people who say "you got owned" "stop crying" "get over it" on threads like this are hackers. The other 10% are morons.
                You're a complete idiot and you hack theory is garbage. But I guess someone of your intelligence level doesn't understand randomization and how it works with regards to the weapons in BF2.

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                • Ghilleman

                  #53
                  Re: new hack pack?

                  Originally posted by PlaneWhore
                  I'm almost positive it's some kind of wallhack / all tags hack or something of that nature that also happens to work just peachy with armored vehicles (since they have splash and can shoot through some walls).

                  Actually I more than suspect this because a couple days ago I encountered a player on the enemy team who flagged as a friendly (he had a tag I could see anywhere). I was in an APC and he was trying to kill me with AT rockets. It was a little cheap but I had no choice but to shoot at him. I felt sorry for the guy because he was getting fragged from miles away, around corners ect..
                  There IS a wallhack for BF2, i've seen screenies of it. (Anyone else who was here for that "hacker self-ownage" post in that one thread will remeber what i'm talking about. Even if i AM being vauge.)

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                  • Cap`N Hagen

                    #54
                    Re: new hack pack?

                    In keeping with the original thread. Yes I have seen some peculiar things happen in the last few days or so. I hadnt played in a while, had some free time this week.
                    Getting one shot killed by the same guy 3 or 4 times in a round certaintly makes me wonder. It happened a few times today while playing Armoured Fury. The funny thing is, when it happened, I checked the scores and sure enough this guy has got a 30 point lead on anyone else in the server, with no deaths. So, I call him out, Hey XXXXXX why don`t you turn the hacks off for a bit and play like a man. No sooner than I said this he gets killed like 4 times in a row. He still managed to dominate the entire round, with I think 5 deaths. Of course I have no proof, as I dont run a server, and really couldnt be bothered with stalking these people to catch them in the act.
                    Anyways, Yes I have noticed the odd strange occurence , and they seem to be more frequent lately.

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                    • SaS|firestorm

                      #55
                      Re: Did the little retards get a new hack pack?

                      Originally posted by SgT.uK
                      In all my time playing bf2 (over 1000 hours) ive never come across a hacker or even suspected anyone of hacking, i think people just come and cry when they die too much tbh.
                      same here

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                      • tehpwnzoor

                        #56
                        Re: new hack pack?

                        some of the new hacks around are stuff like cartillery where you can spam jeeps evry where lol quite annoying as after 2 mins maybe the server crashes from the lag of the cars

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                        • SERIALBUTCHER

                          #57
                          Re: new hack pack?

                          Originally posted by CensoredByGod
                          I agree, There are hacks for BF2. To say that they only play in Unranked is just stupid, this game is all about the ranks and its the main reason for the exploiting and hacking. I've overheated an LAV firing at a single player just standing there reloading an AT round to kill me with and I die. That guy was hacking, no question. You can only be so good at the game, if your on foot on Karkand and your K/D is 40-2 and your not sniping, your a hacker. The game physics dont allow for it, you cant dodge every bullet and take down the 3-4 guys all firing at you. Yet I see it, not a lot, but its there.

                          Hackers and stat padders are no different, they both suck at the game and when they arent hacking and padding they blow. Im only a First Searg and regularly own the generals and Bar ranks, Im forced to ask "If they suck that bad then how the hell did they get that rank?" Then I check some stats and low and behold they have a K/D of 4.0+, how is that possible??
                          1. You can get k/d ratios like that in Karkand when you have a good medic w/ you all round

                          2. Generals blood runs red, same as every 1 else's, just be happy you had a good round, just remember that the general you "pwned" has had THOUSANDS of good rounds

                          Lieutenant General |SI|SERIALBUTCHER

                          peace:)

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                          • Rock_FU

                            #58
                            Re: new hack pack?

                            I agree that there are a number of players who use some sort of cheat/hack. However, I wonder how much of it has to do with lag and hit detection, for instance, I see 5+ shots from my assault rifle hit an AT guy who then turns around an before I know it, I am killed by a P90 within a second Why oh why didnt my shots register?


                            I know there is a problem with this game, I have unloaded half a clip into a clanmate killing him yet he claimed he heard only one shot and was killed by one shot (yet I had the indicator light up 3-4 times) Sounds alot like the 'one shot kill' phenomenon.

                            I think alot of the BS shots are due to the games netcode as these things do not happen in singleplayer.

                            Plus alot of people have just gotten very good at this game, its been out over a year now, it just makes sense.

                            The cheaters however can be easy to spot, but eventually they will be caught or move on to a new game. I plan to play BF2 for quite awhile yet.

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                            • HowieMandel

                              #59
                              Re: new hack pack?

                              If someone is using the commander hack, they almost certainly have the other hacks as well. Although not certain, by any means, i believe the hacks you can buy, come with the commander hack as well.
                              Surely if this is true, then the other hacks are fairly plentiful, as i see commander hacks run, quite a bit. Not all the time, just alot. And surely there are more folks running the hacks, but chose not to use the commander type hacks with thier hacks, as it might expose them.
                              Nah...anyone thinking hacks are a minor problem or not a problem, is either using them.......selling them.....or really messed up in the head.

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                              • imported_HisChadness

                                #60
                                Re: new hack pack?

                                Originally posted by HowieMandel
                                If someone is using the commander hack, they almost certainly have the other hacks as well. Although not certain, by any means, i believe the hacks you can buy, come with the commander hack as well.
                                Surely if this is true, then the other hacks are fairly plentiful, as i see commander hacks run, quite a bit. Not all the time, just alot. And surely there are more folks running the hacks, but chose not to use the commander type hacks with thier hacks, as it might expose them.
                                Nah...anyone thinking hacks are a minor problem or not a problem, is either using them.......selling them.....or really messed up in the head.
                                I've pubbed ALOT, and I've seen the commander hack a total of 1 time that I've been playing.

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