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  • margav

    #1

    Su-47 Berkut

    The prototype 5th gen jet fighter from my motherland Russia, enjoy :





    on min 3 you can see him going on minimal speed.. nasty
  • SHFT_nismo

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    them wings r fugly

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    • margav

      #3
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      Originally posted by SHFT_nismo
      them wings r fugly

      well, generally the weapons are not there for the liking of the enemy are they?

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      • SHFT_nismo

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        Re: Su-47 Berkut

        Originally posted by margav
        well, generally the weapons are not there for the liking of the enemy are they?
        nah, but im just stating the obvious

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        • margav

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          Originally posted by SHFT_nismo
          nah, but im just stating the obvious

          the wings like that provide super manouvrability on supersonic flight and decrease the chance of a stall dramatically

          shows how americans are scared by it ...




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          • WildAce

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            Re: Su-47 Berkut

            the Su-47 looks cooler but the Su-37 is much more fun to watch in flight...

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            • |D|-Max
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              • Aug 2005
              • 419

              #7
              Re: Su-47 Berkut

              Originally posted by margav
              the wings like that provide super manouvrability on supersonic flight and decrease the chance of a stall dramatically

              shows how americans are scared by it ...




              Su-37 Super Flanker Promotional Video!

              http://youtube.com/watch?v=GaUxabw562s
              looks like the U.S is going to have some competition:yay: :yay: :evil:

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              • WildAce

                #8
                Re: Su-47 Berkut

                Originally posted by |D|-Max
                looks like the U.S is going to have some competition:yay: :yay: :evil:

                cant shoot what you cant see :)

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                • margav

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                  Re: Su-47 Berkut

                  Originally posted by warchild.WildAce
                  cant shoot what you cant see :)


                  The su-47 is stealth with air to air homing missiles ranging to 400km

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                  • WildAce

                    #10
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                    i doubt its stealth is as good

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                    • Rezjah

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                      Originally posted by margav
                      The su-47 is stealth with air to air homing missiles ranging to 400km
                      lol, no that is wrong :laugh:

                      The N011M radar on the Su-47 can track targets at a similar range to the APG-70 (the F-15's radar). The Su-47 can search for targets at 400KM away ( like AWACs ).

                      So the Su-47 can see targets at 400km but it can't engage them, and when it moves into engagement range, the F-15 would of picked it up on it's radar and then it would just be a test of skill.

                      But remember, the F-22 is a step above the F-15 so the F-22 will perform better.

                      With the stealth thing, that doesn't mean your plane is completely invisible to radar, it just means you have a very small radar signature, and since the Su-47 is bigger than the F-22, then the Su-47 would have a bit of a larger radar signature, unless the russians have better stealth technology, which I highly doubt.

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                      • margav

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                        Re: Su-47 Berkut

                        I said not the plane can reach, but the rocket has a 400 km range

                        read the links below :p

                        The rocket is 2 step called КС-172 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novator_KS-172_AAM-L) flying at supersonic speed equiped with a combined heatseeker, but often to use them you would need outside pointning.


                        About Stealth, we use different techlology (http://www.fighter-planes.com/info/s37.htm) called RAM coating for radar stealth and the weapon bays are internal. RAM stands for Radar Absorbing Material

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                        • Rezjah

                          #13
                          Re: Su-47 Berkut

                          Originally posted by margav
                          I said not the plane can reach, but the rocket has a 400 km range

                          read the links below :p

                          The rocket is 2 step called КС-172 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novator_KS-172_AAM-L) flying at supersonic speed equiped with a combined heatseeker, but often to use them you would need outside pointning.
                          Interesting rocket, would of been very deadly if the US didn't have the F-22 though. The rocket itself is not manueverable enough to take out small aircraft such as fighters or high speed bombers, but the bigger more slower aircraft, such as AWACs and KC-135s are vulnerable, the rocket was designed to take out those type of aircraft.

                          The good thing is though, the F-22 has also been designed for missile interception, which means the F-22 will be able to shoot down those missiles before they reach their target.

                          The KC-172 rocket is very large and very heavy, so most likely the russians would have those Su-47s equiped specificaly with those rockets, with other standard Su-47s in escort of them.

                          So when those missiles are intercepted and destroyed, the AWACs will know where the enemey aircraft are at, and the F-22s would most likely use their supercruise to reach the enemy undetected and effectively engage and destroy the targets.

                          Tactics goes a long way my friend


                          Originally posted by margav
                          About Stealth, we use different techlology (http://www.fighter-planes.com/info/s37.htm) called RAM coating for radar stealth and the weapon bays are internal. RAM stands for Radar Absorbing Material
                          Yes the US use RAM materials as well, and the F-22's weapon bays are internal as well. So as I said, Su-47 is larger hence larger radar signature, F-22 is smaller, so a smaller radar signature.

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                          • margav

                            #14
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                            no, the us use ras, not RAm and most jets use outside wep bays

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                            • Rezjah

                              #15
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                              Originally posted by margav
                              no, the us use ras, not RAm and most jets use outside wep bays
                              :laugh:

                              The F-22 uses RAM buddy click HERE for your proof and yes most jets use outside weapon bays, but we arent talking about "most jets" are we

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