I Hate Artillery

[BF2Maj.Spirit3]

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My personal opinion is that base raping and using arty on non cap flags is an unsportsmanlike like way of playing the game. However with that being said, I respect the rights of individual owners to decide if they are going to allow it on servers they pay for every month.

The problem I have with this is that all of you guys that base rape try to defend your actions on the forums which leads me to believe that deep down you know its lame an unsportsmanlike to do this but you feel the need to defend your actions because you already know this already and just won't admit it.

If your skill is limited to base raping then fine but just admit it and stop trying to defend your actions and style of game play.

amen.

[51BUBBA51]

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i wanna say something but is there anything 2 say? lol it happens 2 me everyday:cry:

[military1]

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lol suckers!!

[Noxious89123]

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Once the US get a flag on the island then you can have a good game. (PLaying as PLA is ALWAYS fun on wake)

Playing as US sucks.

A good PLA team will put a tank on each beach head. Boats = Pwnt.

US commander Arty's beach head - > good tank driver will see arty firing and will haul *** out of the way.

F35b = pwnt by J-10.

Cobra = pwnt by AA.

People swimming = pwnt by boredom of a 5 minute swim, and then getting shot in the face by tank / helo / plane / evil person.

EDIT: Another annoying thing - people NEVER bail from the blackhawk, despite it being on fire, after it get owned by the J-10.

Plan - BH full of AT guys. Bail and land ob beach head - pwn the tank in 3 seconds - take flag. Shoot noobs with your boom stick. Rinse repeat.

[Chronic1]

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Wake Island is a good example. If I am on Chinese team flying a J10 I will not engage the enemy until they have left the spawn and are trying to get the island.

As I mentioned in my previous post camping their spawn point is not only lame and unsportsmanlike it is also extremely boring for the rest of my team if I don't let the US team get to the island so they can do some fighting also.

Answer me this question why is it that so many of you self proclaimed skilled players need to resort to base raping to get your kills and points if you have so much playing talent. Try impressing me by using you’re so called talent or skill and stop stooping to the lowest common dominator when playing the game and then claiming you owned the other team with your skill.

Skill is not determined by how well you can base rape any idiot can do that try meeting your opponents on equal ground then let's see how far your skill or talent can carry you. :)

The best way for the US team to win this map is to secure the airfield at the beginning of the round; if you suppress their air power the rest of your ground troops will be able to cap the other flags while the Chinese team fights to get their planes and commander assets back.

[KennyBlankenship]

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Serves them all right for getting killed. You gotta figure that most of the people that spawn on the carrier deck are just plane or chopper whores anyhow. Then there's always that one dillhole who teamkills so that he can get the plane or chopper. Serves them right I say. How many times have you played a map that has planes available just to find half your team standing around in hopes that a plane or chopper will spawn for them while you are out with the other few members of your team trying to actually play the game?

[imported_Calaros]

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The problem I have with this is that all of you guys that base rape try to defend your actions on the forums which leads me to believe that deep down you know its lame an unsportsmanlike to do this but you feel the need to defend your actions because you already know this already and just won't admit it.

Note that there is also another possiblity. A possibility that they do in fact know they are being unsportsman-like, and also acknowledge that fact, and yet do not regret doing so. A point of view on the case is that it is simply a means to an end, a different method of playing the game. If they're willing to go to different measures to achieve victory, then that's their choice, and it's really up to server admins to decide whether it's allowed.

I myself used to Arty the carriers and non-cappable bases (when I was commander), and 'base-rape' them also as a Sniper or Spec-Ops. I simply saw it as an indirect way to achieve victory; that a direct fight was by no means the only way to fight. That skill was not just shown by your ability to defeat an opponent in a straight man-to-man fight, but also in your ability to take advantage of a situation, to fight your enemy in a way they weren't expecting. That's the way I used to fight. Hanging in the shadows, gunning them down as they tried to get into their J-10s or F-35s.

It was only after the same thing repeatedly happened to me that I changed my ways. From having the same thing happen to me, I realised how frustrating it is, and how much people can start to resent you. No longer do I snipe Marines from the tower of the U.S.S Essex. Now I'm a tank-whore :laugh: J/k. I'm more into straight fights now.

Wow... just realised how much I went on about my view Wierd how a simple PotD seems to have turned into a lengthy discussion on the ethics of 'base-raping' and artying

[SERIALBUTCHER]

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In real life Artillary wouldn't be able to land in the middle of the ****ing ocean either. The carrier is like a giant city floating on water. So if BF2 were anything close to real life, you'd have plenty of room to move about, and plenty of vehicles to.




No because the J-10 would rape the boats, and the F-35B last about 10 seconds with a decent J-10 Pilot in the air. To bad 90% of the pilots who I ever played with on wake were clueless as to how to fly the F-35b to begin with.

Correction, I meant to write they would have FLAG in 2 minutes

Originally Posted by SERIALBUTCHER
What does luck have to do w/ it?

They all spawned on top by CHOICE

If USMC utilized ALL of their vehicles they could not be stopped, & would have a vehicle in 2 minutes LOL

imho

Major General |SI|SERIALBUTCHER

peace:)

No, no, no, I have seen it too many times in my hundreds of hrs. playing Wake Island, if US deploys their full compliment of transport vehicles (6 boats, & BH's) spread out heading for both tips of the island, & especially if the Cobra gunner, & or F-35 pilots are willing to bail out @ flags to get a "foothold" on the island USMC can turn 2, or 3 flags in 3 minutes

Some will die, but the J-10 CAN NOT stop all of that

Trust me on this 1 son, I know what I'm talkin' about

Now that you have brought it up, because of my clanmates fast load time, we have taken the first F-35, & bailed over the airfield, & captured it before any of the other team loaded into the game

Major General |SI|SERIALBUTCHER

peace:)

[Chronic1]

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That skill was not just shown by your ability to defeat an opponent in a straight man-to-man fight, but also in your ability to take advantage of a situation

Well Calaros unlike you I do care what other community members think, however I will say that at least you’re honest about your playing style. As I mentioned in one of my previous replies it is a personal choice as to if the server owner or admin allows it to take place on their server.

The one thing I do want to point out to you is that taking advantage of something for your own personal gain is basically by definition the same as exploiting and while I support you right to spawn camp the fact remains it's still in my opinion a chicken **** unsportsmanlike way of playing the game.

My advice to you and others that think spawn camping is a legit way to claim you have skill, is to actualy get some skill and stop looking for the cheapest way of playing the game. It’s not too hard to shoot someone in the back while they are basically defenseless while they are spawning up.

[imported_Calaros]

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Well Calaros unlike you I do care what other community members think, however I will say that at least you’re honest about your playing style. As I mentioned in one of my previous replies it is a personal choice as to if the server owner or admin allows it to take place on their server.

The one thing I do want to point out to you is that taking advantage of something for your own personal gain is basically by definition the same as exploiting and while I support you right to spawn camp the fact remains it's still in my opinion a chicken **** unsportsmanlike way of playing the game.

My advice to you and others that think spawn camping is a legit way to claim you have skill, is to actualy get some skill and stop looking for the cheapest way of playing the game. It’s not too hard to shoot someone in the back while they are basically defenseless while they are spawning up.

Okay, read this closely:

It was only after the same thing repeatedly happened to me that I changed my ways. From having the same thing happen to me, I realised how frustrating it is, and how much people can start to resent you. No longer do I snipe Marines from the tower of the U.S.S Essex.

In future, read the whole post before you respond. It really annoys me when people don't bother with that. I do care what others think of my playing style, but I didn't before. Your argument concerning the 'exploit', you must realise, comes purely down to a given person's point of view. I acknowledge that it is not the most sportsmanlike way to play (or indeed at all), but I'm not afraid to be ruthless when I need to be. Although having said that, I must once again point out that I no longer play in such a fashion.
Everyone has different views on honour, its really up to them whether or not they fight their foe face-to-face.

[rambo264]

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1/10, happens alot. More then enough, nothing special here

pretty much sums up how i feel about it

[pornstarscout]

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slackers shouldn't be standing around. at least they went out with a bang. 3/10

[imported_Calaros]

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Lol, I'd hate to be a sunbather in that situation though

[[GU]LIZARD{GEN}]

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Correction, I meant to write they would have FLAG in 2 minutes

Originally Posted by SERIALBUTCHER
What does luck have to do w/ it?

They all spawned on top by CHOICE

If USMC utilized ALL of their vehicles they could not be stopped, & would have a vehicle in 2 minutes LOL

imho

Major General |SI|SERIALBUTCHER

peace:)

No, no, no, I have seen it too many times in my hundreds of hrs. playing Wake Island, if US deploys their full compliment of transport vehicles (6 boats, & BH's) spread out heading for both tips of the island, & especially if the Cobra gunner, & or F-35 pilots are willing to bail out @ flags to get a "foothold" on the island USMC can turn 2, or 3 flags in 3 minutes

Some will die, but the J-10 CAN NOT stop all of that

Trust me on this 1 son, I know what I'm talkin' about

Now that you have brought it up, because of my clanmates fast load time, we have taken the first F-35, & bailed over the airfield, & captured it before any of the other team loaded into the game

Major General |SI|SERIALBUTCHER

peace:)

That happening is always a negative though. See team work on a public server is almost impossible. Unless a clan stacks onto one team, and then of course the team their own may have a better chance, it varies. One or two guys can't capture and hold a base by themselves, and most of the time morons are on the carrier still unaware that anywhere else but the carrier is spawnable, for one reason to be in an air vehicle.

[Blades]

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Ok....we are running out of POTD. Whats the point of this one? Happens all the time.