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  • imported_John-Paul
    Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 303

    #1

    Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

    (I originally posted this in the 'Game Feedback' forum but I'm not sure it'll ever see the light of day there, so ... I thought I'd try it here instead.)

    Obviously I'm not being serious with the title of the thread but reading through some of the threads in the ‘Game Feedback’ forum has left me concerned.

    A number of people seem to confuse 'balancing issues' with simply wanting the game re-coded to accommodate their personal strengths and weaknesses.

    When other players repeatedly outperform you in some way or another, that doesn't necessarily mean what they're doing is exploitative or needs to be addressed or toned down. In many cases, it simply means you have room for improvement.

    Take the AT kit, for example. Certainly not my strongest kit ... but I'm not convinced it needs drastic improvement. Why not? Well, because I've seen people using it exclusively and absolutely dominating. I see them play and concede that I've got a lot to learn about playing the Anti-Tank role. My default reaction is not to ask for faster reload times for the DAO, stronger body armour or additional rockets for the kit.

    Another recent example: the prone-delay and accuracy 'issue'. To me, this isn't an issue at all and shouldn't be touched. I don't have problems killing someone in CQC when they go prone or even prone jump. In fact, I find it easier. Whether they go prone or not, whether it's up-close-and-personal or a mid-to-long range shootout, the victor will be determined by factors that have hardly anything to do with the proning abilities of those involved. The change being discussed seems a futile alteration of gameplay dynamics that'll force the entire community to adapt (all over again) to something demanded for no logical reason.

    I agree there are some balance issues that need to be addressed but I wish people would stop putting the shortcomings of their playing style, their abilities and/or their limited knowledge of the game down to "balance problems." Too often, an overly-loud minority seems to insist that some aspect of the gameplay mechanics is ridiculous and being exploited ... or they go further and insist it's certain to result in the game's demise.

    I will concede that I've been glad to see some things removed / tweaked (C4-throwing, for example) but I also think a line has to be drawn somewhere.

    Ultimately, no adjustment to something as irrelevant as the prone delay or prone accuracy is going to help you outperform the players that consistently take you down. In the same way those players adapted better than you to the current mechanics, they'll adapt better than you to any changes ... so why demand unnecessary, ineffective coding tweaks that will only serve to irritate the broader community?
  • ActiveMatx

    #2
    Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

    Said well. But you can't stop the complainers. So I just sit back, relax, and watch the show. EA Dice, probably dont listen to us much anyways. They prob have their own opinions on what they feel is to be changed.

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    • Jedi_Joe

      #3
      Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

      Originally posted by ActiveMatx
      Said well. But you can't stop the complainers. So I just sit back, relax, and watch the show. EA Dice, probably dont listen to us much anyways. They prob have their own opinions on what they feel is to be changed.
      i agree

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      • imported_John-Paul
        Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 303

        #4
        Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

        Originally posted by ActiveMatx
        Said well. But you can't stop the complainers. So I just sit back, relax, and watch the show. EA Dice, probably dont listen to us much anyways. They prob have their own opinions on what they feel is to be changed.
        True ... although I worry in their zeal to be seen as actively listening to the community, they'll continue to implement unnecessary changes; the kind demanded only by those who complain the most.

        Squad hopping is another example that comes to mind. The polls done in these forums couldn't even get a majority in favour of having its elimination as a server-side option ... yet the change was implemented anyway. Why? Because it didn't suit the playing style of some people and they kicked up a huge fuss. I still love the game with/without squad hopping but it's irritating for a lot of people to have to re-learn certain gameplay mechanics with every patch, especially when those changes are widely-held as unnecessary.

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        • Cazzy

          #5
          Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

          Well that is good and all, but I am certain that every time I have been killed in the game, it was by a cheater/hacker... there is just no possible way anybody can be better than me! :)

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          • VC_Resurrected

            #6
            Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

            Originally posted by Cazzy
            Well that is good and all, but I am certain that every time I have been killed in the game, it was by a cheater/hacker... there is just no possible way anybody can be better than me! :)
            Man, i know the feeling, and i have been killed like 15000 times, so there must be at least 15,000 hackers out there. its crazy!

            Nice point in the original post though, i have a growing feeling myself that it would be impossible for patches to satisfy the multitude of desires coming from all the fans around the world. No patch is ever going to shut everyone up, and we are lucky really that the patches are being made with any input at all from the community, most games dont even do that.

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            • Cazzy

              #7
              Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

              Well I fibbed a little bit in my first post here, I was actually juggling my grenades one time when one went off and I killed myself. But hey I was defending a flag at the time so at least I was killed in the line of duty...

              But I also agree with the OP that people mostly complain about fixing their shortcomings in the game. But I don't have to worry about that anymore ever since I discovered the INVINCIBILITY HELMET that was hidden in a building on the Gulf of Oman map-

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              • Talus
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 6854

                #8
                Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

                Like I said in the Feedback forum sticky...DICE and the forum staff can read ALL posts made in that forum. They just aren't seen by the general user base until they are approved or replied to.

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                • =IMO=THJones

                  #9
                  Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

                  my opinion is in generally everything is fine except a a few issues:
                  1. Ground static AA guns need better range and accuracy, not a lot more but enought to make them an actual threat to be delt with by jets.
                  2. Hit box on J10 needs to be expanded.
                  3.Land and claymore mines need to be destructible again. (this is two fold because it makes land mines more agressive tools being able to hide them and set them off with grenades, and the fact you can clear them when u see them too.)
                  4. A jet should not be able to inflict run over damage to a teammate on a run way. ( to prevent inmature forced tks)

                  besides those thing i think everything else is fine except we need new maps.

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                  • davelisowski

                    #10
                    Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

                    OP - Here, here! *gavel pounding*

                    I would agree that some "tweaks" or "nerfs" are based on player skill (lack thereof).

                    I would post more but I got distracted with how to fold a handkerchief.

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                    • Merlin
                      Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 861

                      #11
                      Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

                      IMO bring back BF2 version 1, but without the bugs

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                      • mondo66

                        #12
                        Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

                        Originally posted by =IMO=THJones
                        my opinion is in generally everything is fine except a a few issues:
                        1. Ground static AA guns need better range and accuracy, not a lot more but enought to make them an actual threat to be delt with by jets.
                        2. Hit box on J10 needs to be expanded.
                        3.Land and claymore mines need to be destructible again. (this is two fold because it makes land mines more agressive tools being able to hide them and set them off with grenades, and the fact you can clear them when u see them too.)
                        4. A jet should not be able to inflict run over damage to a teammate on a run way. ( to prevent inmature forced tks)

                        besides those thing i think everything else is fine except we need new maps.
                        Everything but 3. All I saw when you could destroy mines was a tank rolling up to a choke point and pumping a couple of shells in the area to clear any mines that may have been placed or the machine gunner get out and toss a couple of grenades. No that the sniper only has 2 clays I can live with them as they are.

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                        • nemesis908

                          #13
                          Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

                          Fix the damn claymores, im sick of all the grief i get from teammates tripping on them. They should be destructable to explosives again.

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                          • Zwarte Hovak

                            #14
                            Re: Please re-code the entire game to suit my particular playing style.

                            Yeah i agree the claymores can be a huge pain. Yeah IMO im with u on those. The frikin j10's r nearly damn invincible. Either the hit box needs to be bigger or the f35's missiles just suk at tracking them.

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