Baserape Or Not?

[TomGazpacho]

Re: Baserape Or Not?

The question is moot. Don't attack the uncap and you won't have this issue.

[buteonidae]

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if a server wants no attacking carriers then players should be banned from going in the aa turrets.

:laugh: lol classic.

[Pyryck]

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The entire carrier is a "base". If you attack ANY part of it including the aircraft and defenses, then you are effectively "base-raping".

As a tactic, suppression of the enemy, their assets and their ability to fight against you is very sound logic.

But we must remember that this is a game. You should only shoot one bullet into your enemies toes and then allow them the chance to shoot you in the head.

[HowieMandel]

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If my team is raping a main, uncap flag.......so excessively..that they are eliminating the other team from forming any kind of attack...........well, my team mates piss me off.
I PLAY THE GAME to gaurd flags, and get flags, typically as a groundpounder.
When my team main base rapes, they ruin my game. YEs, i want to win....but i dont want the other team to get raped so bad, they cant form any type of attack, other then the lone bailer, who typically gets, 3 tanks, and 2 helos on top of him before he hits ground.
And of course being on the team that is getting raped, obviously isnt fun.

IN DESERT COMBAT, we had a rule. No main base, uncap flag raping.
You know what............the games were incredibly more fun, more intense, longer (in some cases) and certainly more strategic.

Fun.......imagine that.

[imported_Master Shake]

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How about addressing the real problem? The un-cappable bases are the problem, they should have better defenses to make people leary of attacking them, also there should be more spwn points on the uncappable base so the enemy can't zero in on one or 2 spots. Also making a Carrier that is out to sea an uncapable base is asking for trouble, it can be very challenging to get off the Carriers when the planes and helos are easy targets, and the boats are relativly slow and not very agile look at Wake it starts out aas a base rape fest. Uncappable bases on land are much easier to escape from,defend and generate any kind of counter attack. Karkland, technically its a big base rape fest right off the bat, but eventually someone will break through and spread out the MEC. The problem is the maps and uncappable bases themselves.

I would love to see them impliment para-drop spawn points outside of the uncappable bases to counter this problem.

[sassback]

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as much as i hate to admit it, imo, if ALL the flags are yours, the carrier is fair game. (with the exception of unnecessary carrier rapage on the part of the chinese in the beginning of a round on wake.)

in answer to ur question its not so much base raping as it is spawn camping. neither of which are held in high regard in my book.

[Blades]

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exactly! your team got you into that position so you should get out of it. if it was the real deal, why would china stop at re-taking there docks? why not terrorize the carrier?

what i should say though is that counter attacks should be allowed however, not a constant barrage of fire. that would make things easier for us all but it wont happen.

On Wake they baserape you into submission from the beginning. There is no chance for China to 'take' back their docks because they already have them. USMC has almost no chance really if China is defending properly and has two good pilots and a good chopper crew.

[imported_Master Shake]

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All your base are belong to us...

On Wake they baserape you into submission from the beginning. There is no chance for China to 'take' back their docks because they already have them. USMC has almost no chance really if China is defending properly and has two good pilots and a good chopper crew.

True dat, thats why its really a problem with the level design,......

[Dibbly]

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if all flags are capped then the Essex is fair game as far as im concerned but i dont ***** when the boots on the other foot and its my rear getting nailed to the deck .... suck it down and take your medicine :laugh:

[Pugsy]

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If my team is raping a main, uncap flag.......so excessively..that they are eliminating the other team from forming any kind of attack...........well, my team mates piss me off.
I PLAY THE GAME to gaurd flags, and get flags, typically as a groundpounder.
When my team main base rapes, they ruin my game. YEs, i want to win....but i dont want the other team to get raped so bad, they cant form any type of attack, other then the lone bailer, who typically gets, 3 tanks, and 2 helos on top of him before he hits ground.
And of course being on the team that is getting raped, obviously isnt fun.

IN DESERT COMBAT, we had a rule. No main base, uncap flag raping.
You know what............the games were incredibly more fun, more intense, longer (in some cases) and certainly more strategic.

Fun.......imagine that.

All very good points. IMO, I don't like base raping. Mostly because every person on an uncap is easy prey. (especially at Wake) They are waiting for some type of transport to appear to take it to the fight. For the most part, base raping is nothing more than the other team racking up easy points with little to no skill required. How much skill does it take to bomb/strafe guys that are standing around on a flat carrier deck?

[zipp0r]

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All very good points. IMO, I don't like base raping. Mostly because every person on an uncap is easy prey. (especially at Wake) They are waiting for some type of transport to appear to take it to the fight. For the most part, base raping is nothing more than the other team racking up easy points with little to no skill required. How much skill does it take to bomb/strafe guys that are standing around on a flat carrier deck?

nah they sit there waiting for the attack chopper and jet. quite a few times ive done a dive bomb on those 2 pads and got loads of kills. yea ppl cry about it, but when its done to the china helipad/jetpad then they say its fair game cos its a cappable... well it would be fair game if they werent doing it for kills and were doing it as their troops were attacking at the same time.
so as far as im concerned, anyone, anywhere, is fair game for a kill.

[Desertfox]

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If the server rule was no baseraping then yup it was baseraping.

[Roger Smith]

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most admins consider this base rape, screw um though. base rape is part of the game and punishing people for playing the game properly is just lame.

[imported_{9thInf}Padre]

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No way should that considered base raping. Are you just supposed to stay out of range from the carrier AA guns? Should you not be allowed to continue to track a target you're engaged with? Personally, it does suck when you're getting base raped, but that's the game, and war wouldn't be any different. There aren't 'no-fly zones' in the game. Someone posted a link in another thread to a BF2 demo where they banned two guys for base raping, which they were doing. However, the server rules stated that the airspace over an uncappable was off limits just as much as the ground. I can't remember the server name, but I know I won't be on that server so long as they enforce crap like that.

I'd also say something like sniping from the construction site on Oman isn't raping either. However, the wholesale driving of the armor & APC's, along with a general ground assault would most certainly be base raping. Even then, although I wouldn't join in myself were I on the winning side, I think that's part of the game. Deal with it.

[zipp0r]

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I'd also say something like sniping from the construction site on Oman isn't raping either.

im sure ive been on a server and got warned for sniping into uncappable bases, i wasnt in it, i was at the max draw distance. it cant be helped if i can see in it :laugh: