Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

[Chanse]

Hi,
Can anybody please tell me if it is possible to setup your Command Rose commands like, Thankyou, Sorry, Need Ammo... etc. by just pressing one key on the keyboard. If I'm flying in a Jet or Chopper and you want to say Sorry, maybe press just F12 or say Thankyou and just press F11 on the keyboard.
I is quite difficult when flying a jet with a joystick and you GOT to say Sorry, because you got to use Q and your mouse to get to that command.
At the moment I got the Q key setup on my Joystick on a unused button ans the I use the mouse with my left hand to get the command.
Is there a better way?
Thanks
CT

[Harmor]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Try JoyToKey, make a macro using AutoHotkey, or get a game pad.

[XmetallicaXguitarstX]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Yeah I do it with JoyToKey, but I have it so one button is "Q" and one is left click. I press the "Q" and then my trigger "left click", and it spots people.

I want an easier way to say sorry, but I didn't figure it out.. but I know it is possible. Other people do it.

ALSO, I need to redo my joystick mouse-look. I used to have it set up, but after I wiped my HD, I didn't ever redo it cause I forgot.

[Harmor]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Yeah I do it with JoyToKey, but I have it so one button is "Q" and one is left click. I press the "Q" and then my trigger "left click", and it spots people.

I want an easier way to say sorry, but I didn't figure it out.. but I know it is possible. Other people do it.

ALSO, I need to redo my joystick mouse-look. I used to have it set up, but after I wiped my HD, I didn't ever redo it cause I forgot.

Here's how to setup your joystick for mouselook using JoyToKey:

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72603

[Lanserschrek]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Surprised I missed this one. A topic that would usually catch my eye. If you haven't already developed your own solution there are a few ways you could do it.

AutoHotkey is a good suggestion, but it often tends to be flaky scripting mouse movement within BF2, the best way around this is to use DosX's method of editing the 'Controls.con' file to allow you to use the NumPad for Commo Rose interaction. It would let you hold Q and 5 to spot for instance, or hold Q then 6, 2, 5 to say 'Need Ammo'. Seeing as any Commo Rose command can now be sent as a simple series of keypresses you can use AutoHotkey, G15 keyboard or my personal favourite, Voice Recognition to send the keystrokes for you.

This post contains DosX's method of editing the 'controls.con' and you could also take Voice recogntion for a test fly as thats what why we experiemented with Voice recognition, damn handy for piloting.

http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showpost.php?p=803548&postcount=74

I've since stopped using Shoot though for implementing Voice Recognition, I'm using this instead now http://www.dwvac.com/

If you implement the NumPad method here are the Commands in Autohotkey, you just need to label the hotkeys/joystick buttons to trigger them ...

KeySleepQT = 150 ; Ideal Sleep time for Commo Rose Q,T commands

$*#WheelUp:: ; Example
Goto, QThanks

$*+WheelUp:: ; Example
Goto, QNeedMedic

;################################################# #############################
;### Commo Rose Actions ################################################## #####
;################################################# #############################

QGoGoGo: ; COMMO ROSE Go, Go, Go {Q 8 5}
Send, {q Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad8 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad8 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {q Up}
Return

QThanks: ; COMMO ROSE Thanks {Q 4 5}
Send, {q Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad4 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad4 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {q Up}
Return

QNeedMedic: ; COMMO ROSE Need Medic/Repairs (Q 4 2 5)
Send, {q Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad4 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad4 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad2 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad2 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {q Up}
Return

QSorry: ; COMMO ROSE Sorry {Q 6 5}
Send, {q Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad6 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad6 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {q Up}
Return

QNeedAmmo: ; COMMO ROSE Need Ammo (Q 6 2 5)
Send, {q Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad6 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad6 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad2 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad2 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {q Up}
Return

QFollowMe: ; COMMO ROSE Follow Me {Q 2 5}
Send, {q Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad2 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad2 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Down}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {Numpad5 Up}
Sleep %KeySleepQT%
Send, {q Up}
Return

[Harmor]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Why modify the 'Control.con' file at all? You can use mouse with AutoHotkey just fine in BF2.

Here's an example that says "I'm sorry" using the mouse when you press a joystick button:

MouseEvent(a_xpos,a_ypos)
{
   DllCall("mouse_event", uint,1, int,a_xpos, int,a_ypos, uint,0, int,0 )
}

;
; Press Joy5 to say "I'm sorry" using the Cammo Rose while flying
;
$Joy5::
   Send, {q Down}
   Sleep 200
   MouseEvent(300,10)
   Sleep 40
   MouseClick, Left, , , , , D
   sleep 40
   MouseClick, Left, , , , , U
   Send, {q Up}
return

Pretty simple.

[Desertfox]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Wait, so using that autokey thing I can get macro's on non-macro keyboard?

[ROCKETt]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

bad idea...

[Lanserschrek]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Why modify the 'Control.con' file at all? You can use mouse with AutoHotkey just fine in BF2.

Well like I said in our other discussion of the using the NumPad, it arose as a method because we wanted to use Voice Recogntion to issue a command, so say "Sorry" out loud and the Commo Rose command is executed for you. Adding Autohotkey into the mix was a step too much as our intention was to remove it from the equation in the first place. So once you can use the NumPad you can just use whatever Voice Recognition software you wish to issue the NumPad presses and no need for AuthotKey as an extra step complicating things. DosX originally thought up the NumPad method for Logitech G15 users as there isn't a way to simulate the mouse on it's G keys, once the Commo Rose becomes simple keypresses though you can assign preset Commo Rose commands to the G keys. Then he became involved in the voice recognition thread and the rest as they say is history.

However as we both know AutoHotkey can work a treat.

Wait, so using that autokey thing I can get macro's on non-macro keyboard?

Well I guess you could if you wished and wanted to play around with it although the type of macros you employ I'll leave up to your discretion. I personally find it more useful for simply extending the functionality of my mouse. I'm using an MX1000 mouse which is essentially 10 buttons, so each of my buttons is assigned to a weapon but depending on whether you depress 'Shift', 'Ctrl', 'Windows' etc as a modifier you can essentially double, triple etc the functions of your buttons. So that means you can have Parachute, Yes/No, Map, MiniMap Zoom, Scoreboard, SquadScreen, VOIP etc all easily accessible from your mouse.

[Talus]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Well I guess you could if you wished and wanted to play around with it although the type of macros you employ I'll leave up to your discretion. I personally find it more useful for simply extending the functionality of my mouse. I'm using an MX1000 mouse which is essentially 10 buttons, so each of my buttons is assigned to a weapon but depending on whether you depress 'Shift', 'Ctrl', 'Windows' etc as a modifier you can essentially double, triple etc the functions of your buttons. So that means you can have Parachute, Yes/No, Map, MiniMap Zoom, Scoreboard, SquadScreen, VOIP etc all easily accessible from your mouse.

Now I haven't played around with settings up my MX1000 in ages...I'm just using the UberOptions mod.

Do you have to use the LogiGamer application to get the 'shift state' button functionality you mention above?

Sounds interesting...

[Cardini]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

as an extra step complicating things. DosX originally thought up the NumPad method for Logitech G15 users as there isn't a way to simulate the mouse on it's G keys, once the Commo Rose becomes simple keypresses though you can assign preset Commo Rose commands to the G keys. Then he became involved in the voice recognition thread and the rest as they say is history.

The latest profiler version on the g15 NOW supports mouse clicks.

[Talus]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

and mouse movements..but it involves manual file editing.

[Lanserschrek]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Now I haven't played around with settings up my MX1000 in ages...I'm just using the UberOptions mod.

Do you have to use the LogiGamer application to get the 'shift state' button functionality you mention above?

Sounds interesting...

Well I'm using UberOptions as well Talus, left LogiGamer behind a long time ago, I always hoped that either LogiGamer or UberOptions would provide the extra options provided by holding either Shift, Win etc down. Currently you'd need to use AutoHotkey to add extra functionality to the mouse, as a brief example here's my own setup, UberOptions has the keys set and AutoHotkey looks for Shift+5, or Win+N or whatever to be pressed ...

Tilt Left - Pistol
Tilt Left (Shift) - Night Vision Goggles
Tilt Right - Primary Weapon
Tilt Right (Shift) - Gas Mask
Cruise Up - Shock paddles etc
Cruise Up (Shift) - Answer/Vote Yes
Cruise Down - Grenade
Cruise Down (Shift) - Answer/Vote No
Thumb Top - Ammo, Medbag etc
Thumb Top (Double Click) - Pick Up kit
Thumb Top (Shift) - Squad VOIP [active as long as Shift held]
Thumb Top (Win) - Chase Front
Thumb Middle - Knife
Thumb Middle (Shift) - Scoreboard [displayed as long as Shift held]
Thumb Middle (Win) - Inside view
Thumb Bottom - MiniMapZoom
Thumb Bottom (Double Click) - 3D Map
Thumb Bottom (Shift) - Map
Thumb Bottom (Win) - Chase Rear

Here's a simple example of displaying Map within AutoHotkey, where I use the Lower Thumb Button which I have assigned to MiniMap Zoom the 'N' key in UberOptions/Setpoint ...

KeySleep1 = 100

; Thumb Bottom (Shift)
$*+n::
Goto, Map

Map: ; Map
Send, {m Down}
Sleep %KeySleep1%
Send, {m Up}
return

So basically I have Map, MiniMapZoom and 3D Map on the one button. Seems more intuitive to me that way.

[Talus]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

Ahh...I see now.

I dabbled with Autohotkey but I already have TONS of applets running in the background when I run BF2 .. I didn't want another.

I was hoping for a way to do this directly :/

Thanks for the info though...

[Komet.nl]

Re: Command Rose Keyboard Shortcuts??

I do this with my G15.. I love it I don't Dolphin Dive with it but I got the macro to try it out it's even on my Photobucket but who cares about what I just said w/e

I like the G15 because I can do

- What your asking about the Com.Rose

- Open Winamp when in plane etc. don't have to

But yeah AutoHotKey also Is a good program (At least what I heard about it on G15MODS.. by some member..)