Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

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  • Dugman44

    #1

    Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

    Yesterday I played on a ranked server that had the punish system off. You couldn't punish a tk even if was obviously a thrill kill. So of course some guy gets on there and goes nuts.

    By the time he shot me, he was up to negative 104, and he was just getting warmed up. The funny thing was, I was the first person to call for his kick and ask for an admin. The reason, I think, was that most people who got shot by him didn't even know they were tked. If the punish system is off, the yellow punish stuff doesn't show up and the only way you know its a tk is if you look up at the scroll in the upper left, which is hard to do sometimes.

    Also, as soon as the the guy did his first TK, his score went negative and he dropped off the scoreboard. You had to take time out of the game to look for him at the bottom of the board. So you wouldn't know he was a "friendly" doing a tk spree unless you knew how to look (the teams were stacked and our team was lousy/inexperienced).

    Anyway, the kick votes didn't work and no admin showed up until I called him an F'ing F'er and got kicked myself. There was no way to get this guy off the server.

    So my questions are, shouldn't the tk punish system always be on to stop idiots like this? What is the effect of being punished? What is the big deal about getting punished? Even without the punish, you still get the negative points. The only people I've ever seen get kicked for tk's are pilots on Wake who accidentally shoot down full BH"s. But on those maps couldn't you set the sytem to give them two chances?

    It seems like there alot more stupidity going on lately and turning off the punish system is a bad idea. What do you think?
  • davelisowski

    #2
    Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

    From my understanding, intentional TKing, especially on that scale, is against ROE. That player is completely ruining the game for his team. I'm too lazy to look it up though.

    If the punish/autokick system is off, they need an admin. With an admin, even a bad one, that guy would be gone by about -10.

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    • WarGimp

      #3
      Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

      Depends on if the server is admined or not.

      The whole system was intended as a way for servers to be self admined by the players. Unfortunatly, it's been abused to hell 'n back. People do stupid things all over the place. They punish for clear "oopses" or their own damned fault (running infront of full vehicles, standing on "friendly" claymores, jumping out of vehicles at highspeed, etc). Worse is the morons that laydown infront of planes 'n hop up onto full choppers/tanks so the driver can't do anything without TKing 'em.

      SO... the answer is to play on well admined servers. Then the question of the TK punish system becomes moot.

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      • AF-|FireFox|

        #4
        Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

        I think it'd be best to turn off TKing unless it is determined that the server be occupied by an admin; ie every 30 min., 1 hour, or whatnot.

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        • « R²» HKS

          #5
          Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

          Well all ranked servers have to have the tkpunish system on anyway as per the ROE. Ir sucks and we don't want to and a lot of admins are pushing for this not to be mandatory.

          The way to sort out the guy in your example is quite simple. In BF2CC you can now set a negative score to kick. So now its impossible to rack up those huge negative scores as per your example.

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          • (4THIDUSA) SSG H.

            #6
            Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

            turning the tk ponish off is a violation of the ROE, per EA it must be on

            §1.21 TK PUNISHMENT
            § Option A: TK punish is optional for the player by using the pgup/pgdn voting system.
            § Option B: TK punish is to be set to automatic or on, but may not be set to off.

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            • Jedi_Joe

              #7
              Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

              when you punish someone, whats it do? just add how many times you have been punished on ya stats?

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              • BigBadBob

                #8
                Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

                the hole TK punish thing is ********. Just make it -2 for a tk and be done with it.

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                • scott123

                  #9
                  Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

                  Yes...TK punish should be off by default. About 90% of the time you are punished when its the other persons fault. There are too many examples to post. The best one is; driving along in a jeep and someone crosses in front of you. You can't stop in time and run him over, followed by TK-Punish towards you.

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                  • WarGimp

                    #10
                    Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

                    Originally posted by Comrad_Joe
                    when you punish someone, whats it do? just add how many times you have been punished on ya stats?
                    As far as I know, there's no stat tracking for how many times you've been punished.

                    The biggest misconception in BF2 is that many people still believe that being punished has some sort of impact on your score. IT DOES NOT effect your score AT ALL!

                    The only thing a punish does is count towards getting you kicked from the server. Each time you are punished it adds up. When your punishes pass the number set by the server admin, you're history.

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                    • IndianScout

                      #11
                      Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

                      Originally posted by (4THIDUSA) SSG H.
                      turning the tk ponish off is a violation of the ROE, per EA it must be on

                      §1.21 TK PUNISHMENT
                      § Option A: TK punish is optional for the player by using the pgup/pgdn voting system.
                      § Option B: TK punish is to be set to automatic or on, but may not be set to off.
                      yes, you cant turn punish off, if you do you risk getting the server reported

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                      • Revoluti0n
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                        • Mar 2006
                        • 3032

                        #12
                        Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

                        I bet that server had auto punish on, the reporting was probably not activated.

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                        • BioDiaperX

                          #13
                          Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

                          Don't most servers auto kick after a certain number of punishes are reached? If he had -104 and auto punish was on he would've been kicked a long time before he could get to -104.

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                          • (4THIDUSA) SSG H.

                            #14
                            Re: Is it smart to turn the tk punish sytem off?

                            the auto punish justs punishs, the auto kick score is set by the admin, so it looks like they dont have it on

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