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  • kc135dood

    #1

    Interesting

    omfg I just tried to write about a three paragraphs about Flares and it said I needed to log in again.....boy am I ****ed like no other;

    ARGHHHHHHHHHHH OMFG

    anyway here goes again!!!!!!!!!!!

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    All of these will be used in Examples so you'll get the idea better, faster;(PLUS ALL OF THIS GOES FOR AIRCRAFT, HELICOPTERS)

    FLARES;

    Say you are flying in BF2 or Real Life, in a MIG-29, and all of a sudden you hear the Incoming Missle Alarm System(the annoying, but frightening, adrenalin rushing(adren. rushing in RL of course) alarm going off)......you immediatly Bank the opposite way of where the missle is heading towards you..........now PAUSE!

    Read on INFORMATION BELOW;

    *1st* The Incoming Missle Alarm System(IMAS) went off, because someone found your aircraft flying in target range of the Heat Seeking Mechanism of their device that they are trying to use to shoot you down whether it be a (Aircraft(Airplane, or Helicopter), Anti-Aircraft-Artillery(AAA(commonly said as "Triple A" or "AA", or "AA gun"))....they are tracking the heat coming from your aircraft;

    *2nd* The way to stop them~enemy, or avoid them.. is to launch flares.....or......possibley like in Real Life.... shoot something that'll make tremendous amounts of heat, so that the so cal "Heat Seeking Missle" will target the most heat.....which is hopfully I-ther your planned explosion that you tried to make w/ something.....or...................

    *3rd* ....or a something called a Flare, that you could shoot out of your Aircraft............A flare is just a "Flare" used to fake the missle following you, to think that the heat from the flare you should have shot out, is really your aircraft..... In Real life you can shoot out 3x, 4x as many as you can in BF2(in BF2 you can shoot out what once, 5, 6-8 come out then you have to wait a few..for them to reload..(in RL you can fire all 30-50-70 flares as quickly as you can dump them from your aircraft)

    HEAT SEEKING MISSLE; They follow objects by a sensor in the Missle, which locks, or follows Heat coming from the designated Assigned Heat Point which the Launch Personnel decided to fire it at.....Again.....shooting the flare acts as another heat source.......which fakes the HeatSeekingMissle into thinking that it's supposed to lock onto that, instead of your airplane that is hopfully flying free w/ no IMAS sounds going off.


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    Just my 2 Cents of it....... Information by a Friend who works at the Grayling, Michigan, USA Air Gunnery Range.

    -Dave A. Lawrence

    -ALWAYS REMEMBER WHEN POSTING A POST, COPY AND SAVE IT.....to a TEXT FILE ON YOUR DESKTOP, ......I learned from that as you can see at the beginning of the post...! :-D

    RADAR, is something different; RADAR missles follow aircraft because of their position on the Radar of the folks that are trying to spot the aircraft..... In this case. for Example;

    A Boeing B-52H StratoFortress(hopfully all know what plane I am taking about(huge...in a way..... eight engine loud, LOUD! Heavy Metal Bomber(commonly known as BUFF(Big Ugly Fat Fellow(well truly its not fat at all....its real skinny))) Anyways.. like I said, it is a "Heavy Metal, Loud, "Bomber" ..which shows up on radar 50x the size as the F-35B probably does.......way more than the -35B For SURE!_______________________________






    Inside that Circle is; O=Enemy Radar
    *=Friendly F-35B
    ( )=Friendly B-52H
    And the two circle outlines is the RADAR's Range of operation.

    Basically this works exactly like the "UAV" Unmaned Aerial Vehicle....

    As you can see the *= F-35B, and ( )=B-52H is clearly visible and well in range of the Enemy RADAR operation zone.


    This is not in BF2...... no automated Radar Guided Missles in BF2.......... :-(

    The Enemy's RADAR can and will Report each aircraft's exact postion, for the SAMs (Surface to Air Missle(s)) for the Enemy to fire at the Friendlies.... so.... now it comes to Air Defense from the Pilots; PAUSE in RL(real life)

    *1st* RADAR GUIDED MISSLE, LOCKS ON TO THE AIRCRAFT, Gets its info from the ENEMY's RADAR, Stores info about the target into the Missle and the missle fires away at the aircraft locked onto it......which It is locked onto the metal of the aircraft........because the siginal from the radar started there........well like cell phones.......... and radios....... What Screws up your signal ?!?!?!?!? hint hint.....a bunch of metal!!!!!! hey why not put a bunch of metal pieces in aircraft.... so that they can launch them out when a RADAR Guided Missle is locked onto them!

    *2nd* ... Metal Pieces; "CHAFF" used when an aircraft is locked onto by a RADAR Guided Missle is following the the aircraft...... the Pilot shoots out CHAFF which makes the RADAR Missle Spaz out, or change its lock on postion onto the CHAFF.....thinking again its the aircraft, or if it is Spazing out.....then possibiley loosing Radar Signal Connection.......failure to locate a target.....so both ways......the Friendly flies free..... and resumes their Mission.

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    There is my other Two Cents.

    -Dave A. Lawrence
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  • lil_jimmy_norton

    #2
    Re: Interesting

    I for once am speechless....

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    • Miniman

      #3
      Re: Interesting

      interesting, i will load chaffs next tiem i fly

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      • Brindled
        Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1068

        #4
        Re: Interesting

        one question: how effective would bf2 pilots be with flares that were nonreplenishable? would we still be hearing people cry "jet whore?"

        nice write up. i always seem to give up if i lose a long post.

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        • zipp0r

          #5
          Re: Interesting

          yup we all know its stupid game coding by dice, making u wait 30seconds for another bunch of flares which arent the most effective anyway

          google for the plane that shoots out "angel" flares, thats similar to how they should be acting :)

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          • Scinto
            Retired TGN *****
            • Mar 2006
            • 5387

            #6
            Re: Interesting

            Originally posted by zipp0r
            yup we all know its stupid game coding by dice, making u wait 30seconds for another bunch of flares which arent the most effective anyway

            google for the plane that shoots out "angel" flares, thats similar to how they should be acting :)
            if only that were in bf2 :cry:

            Angel Flares

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            • Jay-C_2142

              #7
              Re: Interesting

              what is the default button to fire flares? Whenever i'm in a jet (which is very rare as i am usually on the ground or get purposefull TK'ED as go for one) and i hear that beeping and see a missle is locked, i usually bail out then get mowed down by machinegun as i'm parachuting lol. I need to practise on single player...

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              • Revoluti0n
                Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 3032

                #8
                Re: Interesting

                Originally posted by lil_jimmy_norton
                I for once am speechless....
                :rofl:
                That is a miracle in and of itself.

                To the OP, if you plan on trying to write a well thought out post, write it in notepad or Word first.

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                • Jonesey1141

                  #9
                  Re: Interesting

                  Originally posted by kc135dood
                  *1st* The Incoming Missle Alarm System(IMAS) went off, because someone found your aircraft flying in target range of the Heat Seeking Mechanism of their device that they are trying to use to shoot you down whether it be a (Aircraft(Airplane, or Helicopter), Anti-Aircraft-Artillery(AAA(commonly said as "Triple A" or "AA", or "AA gun"))....they are tracking the heat coming from your aircraft;
                  Did you friend inthe Grayling, Michigan, USA Air Gunnery Range know how an aircraft knows when it is being tracked by a heat-seeking mechanism? That's like saying the IMAS knows when someone is listening to the aircraft. Sure, it's making alot of noise and everyone around can hear it, but how does IMAS know exactly where the listener is?

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                  • davelisowski

                    #10
                    Re: Interesting

                    If aircraft could shoot out flares like in real life, then they would almost never get shot down in BF2. For the most part, people wait until your flares are deployed to go for the kill.

                    Jay_C... try pushing X. I don't know what it does, but I think it puts up an invisble shield around the jet which lets you fly into anything you want for 30 seconds.

                    I wonder how much punctuation is in the OP.

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                    • John Edmo

                      #11
                      Re: Interesting

                      Cool and thanks. :banana: :banana: :banana: I love the bananas, they rock in time with my music.

                      Pity we didn't have them in BF2.

                      Jay_C... try pushing X. I don't know what it does, but I think it puts up an invisble shield around the jet which lets you fly into anything you want for 30 seconds.HAHAHA:laugh: :laugh: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

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                      • thecolorpink

                        #12
                        Re: Interesting

                        omg flares dont work for helos at all. whats the point of even having them on a helo if they dont work.

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                        • John Edmo

                          #13
                          Re: Interesting

                          Originally posted by thecolorpink
                          omg flares dont work for helos at all. whats the point of even having them on a helo if they dont work.
                          They work alright. You want to and shoot the buggers down on a TOW and see what I mean.:cussing:

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                          • kc135dood

                            #14
                            Re: Interesting

                            Originally posted by Jonesey
                            Did you friend inthe Grayling, Michigan, USA Air Gunnery Range know how an aircraft knows when it is being tracked by a heat-seeking mechanism? That's like saying the IMAS knows when someone is listening to the aircraft. Sure, it's making alot of noise and everyone around can hear it, but how does IMAS know exactly where the listener is?
                            I am not to sure... I can ask him though, complex equipment in Aircrafts for Self-Air-Defense.

                            To use flares on BF2 you press X, I'd say you should press it after you hear the louder faster rate alarm, than the first one.

                            -Dave A. Lawrence

                            Man... Monster Energy drink really works good........I tried it last night and I've been up for 38hours and countin'

                            Good stuff!

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