Air to Air HS J-10 vs U.S. Aircraft Exploit

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  • N2K
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    More than half my victims when getting my expert AA were J10s.

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  • [GU]LIZARD{GEN}
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    Yeah it is unbalenced. It also amazes me how the missiles bounce of it. I see the stats of it above but I can't see what would make the missiles "Bounce off it" not only do the JSF F-35B's Missiles bounce off but so do the ESSEX guns sometimes. The only time I've seen the J-10 come flying out of the air is when a linebacker locks onto it. I can easly shoot down the J-10 with a linebacker.

    I've still amazed that some of these modders happen figured out just why the J-10 can deflect missiles off. I've even watched them explode on my tail end, and not give me the damage. The plane shakes and even shows the indicater as if I've taken damage but the health bar stays the same. Rarely I get shot down, and I suck compared to many pilots. Anyone can fly a jet now but those J-10's even flying straight are a task to kill with the missiles. To top that off they turn faster.

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  • XmetallicaXguitarstX
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    Originally posted by bitvomit
    Did anyone know that the J-10 can outrun it's own A2A missiles? Try it out and see for yourself.
    I know


    I can get up to 4,050

    That missle can't touch me :p

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  • baggygreen
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    Originally posted by ACECOOL
    I see your point, but with more practice, and a good Joy Stick, You'll soon be taking out the F-35's, Choppers and Boats with ease, which may not give your team much of a chance for credits, but almost a sure win. This is why the F-35 must have a fighting chance.
    Ummmm

    I have like 25 hours on jets (at a guesstimate), i've always used a joystick and i rarely give the enemy pilots a chance to get on my tail - its just when they're there, i seem to be toast no matter what. My k:d ratio is about 3, not great for a jet i know but considering i dont attack the carrier on wake or dalian, and i rarely attack jets on the runway, i think thats fair to ok.

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  • HAWK503
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    Originally posted by BloodHound
    lol :laugh: nice one this dude just chats about owt, yea i agree the j10 is to powerfull nothing seems to out run it but the f18 hornet seems to do the job

    Yeah i use the F/a 18 as much as possible but i just wish they put them on the carriers.

    P.S. have you seen this forum... http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showt...erburner+timer

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  • NATESOR
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    J-10 cannot be shot down. and the F-35 is a missile magnet. How DICE thinks this is balanced is beyond me.

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  • bitvomit
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    Did anyone know that the J-10 can outrun it's own A2A missiles? Try it out and see for yourself.

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  • imported_ACECOOL
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    Originally posted by baggygreen
    I was mucking around in a near empty oman server the other day. the bloke in the mig took me down with ease whenever he got on my tail. if i got on his tail, he evaded most missiles and i could only get him with guns. Now, the thing is he said that the f35 has a huge hitbox. I believe at some point in the forums someone has also said you might as well be flying the essex.

    As regards the J10, i normally get hit in it regardless of evasive manoevres, and when fighting against it i tend to prefer simply to drive it off the boats and choppers, rather than simply taking it out. Sure, my score hurts, but the team has a better chance of notching up a win!
    I see your point, but with more practice, and a good Joy Stick, You'll soon be taking out the F-35's, Choppers and Boats with ease, which may not give your team much of a chance for credits, but almost a sure win. This is why the F-35 must have a fighting chance.

    Being that the Airfield on Wake Island is a capable base, I can see why EA gives the J-10 a better fighting ability, not to mention, a much faster jet respawn time. But then there are plenty of AA IGLA'S to add Air Defense as a counter measure. If your quick enough (lucky enough) to get to Wake's Airbase with the F-35, you can take out the aircraft before the J-10's and choppers have a chance to take off. But to remove "almost" all HS Air to Air accuracy from the F-35 is prepostereous, as those who love to pilot, do so love to dog fight. :box:

    BF2 Tracker has also had numerous threads on this subject, favoring over 90% the F-35 needs better Air to Air efficiency (the other 10% being exploiters of the J-10 or non-pilot players).

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  • baggygreen
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    I was mucking around in a near empty oman server the other day. the bloke in the mig took me down with ease whenever he got on my tail. if i got on his tail, he evaded most missiles and i could only get him with guns. Now, the thing is he said that the f35 has a huge hitbox. I believe at some point in the forums someone has also said you might as well be flying the essex.

    As regards the J10, i normally get hit in it regardless of evasive manoevres, and when fighting against it i tend to prefer simply to drive it off the boats and choppers, rather than simply taking it out. Sure, my score hurts, but the team has a better chance of notching up a win!

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  • kenof2142
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    Even if you switch the roles and you're in the f35 and he fires missles at you, you launch your flares the damn missles STILL hits you even after taking evasive manuevers :hmm: . F35 needs some tweaking, but what's odd is that when put up against the mig's they tend to do alright.

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  • imported_ACECOOL
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    Originally posted by EC-Paulus-
    he used flares. Press x next time your locked on by an enemy, see what happens.
    Flares are nothing more than obvious as to why some HS strafe away from the target Jet, this is not the issue. When your flying straight behind a J-10 (he does not see you), and hear the steady lock-on (he still doesn't react), and you fire off two, four or all six at once, doesn't matter! They all miss (lucky if one connects), so this is the only reason I would take the time of posting these issues. Not because I don't have more important things to do on a Saturday, well, accept to play BF2 :p

    I use my flares like clockwork, I also time activation, right before missles are close, then hard bank. Flares could be improved as well, as they don't always act as a decoy. I also shut my afterburners down for less heat if that is programmed in. I've tried just about everything.

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  • XmetallicaXguitarstX
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    Originally posted by Casey
    Don't be ridiculous. I think I know what happens when a pilot drops flares. The missiles follow them instead of the jet. Right??

    Not the case for me. The J-10 already dropped flares, and evaded my gun. He must have thought that he escaped, because he smoothed out and headed straight. I switch to missiles, and Fwoom! Fwoom! 2 missiles fly right above and right below him.
    yeah the J-10 is complete bull****... you'll learn over time, that you shouldn't even bother with missles on the J-10. Cannon is the only effective way of killing them.

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  • imported_Casey
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    Originally posted by EC-Paulus-
    he used flares. Press x next time your locked on by an enemy, see what happens.
    Don't be ridiculous. I think I know what happens when a pilot drops flares. The missiles follow them instead of the jet. Right??

    Not the case for me. The J-10 already dropped flares, and evaded my gun. He must have thought that he escaped, because he smoothed out and headed straight. I switch to missiles, and Fwoom! Fwoom! 2 missiles fly right above and right below him.

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  • imported_Nefarious
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    he used flares. Press x next time your locked on by an enemy, see what happens.

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  • imported_ACECOOL
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    Originally posted by SmallCrater
    Lol everybody knows that DICE and EA are too retarded to figure out that the maximum missile turning radius is less than the maximum J10 turning radius.
    Flying the F-35 has it's rewards, as in, "YOU LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES", however negative it may seem with the J-10 superiority, pilots must learn to adapt and overcome this nuisance, by doing a vertical take off (help avoid kills by cheap kill base rapers), and gaining maximum altitude, keeping an eye out below for J-10's. Swoop in behind, and fire your guns. Alerting the J-10 pilot with lock-on tone, is not a good idea, in most cases, he just out turns the HS and YOU. If you ask me, they should just delete the F-35's missile capabilities and use the jet strictly for transport or bombing bases. Dogfight? Forget it, unless it's a newbie pilot. Let's put the "FUN" back in BF2, and fix this please.

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