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  • Dugman44

    #1

    Can Admins do this?

    I'm wondering how much power admins have over two things.

    I played a while back on a server that said in their log on screen that friendly fire was turned down to 40%. In other words, it wasn't on or off, but did only 40% of the normal damage. I didn't think much about it at the time. But I've played alot more and like everyone else I have those funky rounds where a G3 single shot to the head point blank from behind doesn't kill. Now I'm wondering, can admins adjust enemy fire the same way, for one or both teams?

    Second thing, I was on a server last night and saw evidence that admins can control spawn points. I was usmc. The admin, who was very active, was on MEC. The server, which I won't name, allows spawn camp without armor. So I took my SAW and camped the wide alley. I kill five guys. The bodies and kits are everywhere. Its a massacre scene. The sixth guy starts to spawn in, but then just disappears. Then in two seconds the bodies vanish, and each kit just pops out. In two seconds the alley is clean. Not a slow fade, I mean just like someone wiped the stuff off the screen. I wait there for another twenty seconds, no more spawns, and a MEC comes from behind me and lights me up.

    Can admins control spawn points? And no, I don't have screenies. I'm not accusing anybody, I just want to know the answers.

    If you think about it these are huge issues. Do admins have these powers? If so, maybe they shouldn't.
  • BadToad

    #2
    Re: Can Admins do this?

    Don't believe so. They just decided to stop spawning there until they killed you first.

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    • Galdigor

      #3
      Re: Can Admins do this?

      i have NO idea... srry

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      • Holle

        #4
        Re: Can Admins do this?

        As far has changing the friendly fire settings...yes they can change that. From ROE.

        Though it is not required, EA requests that all servers run Friendly Fire at 100% for all settings, including mines (sv.friendlyFireWithMines).

        On a ranked server you can't change the damage the weapons do to enemy's. Only thing I can think of is lag. You get the same thing with the knife when your right next to them. You get dust and squish sound....but the person doesn't die.

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        • Dugman44

          #5
          Re: Can Admins do this?

          Thx for the info.

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          • imported_Tetra(UK)

            #6
            Re: Can Admins do this?

            no admins can't control spawn points, but they can control friendly fire as already said

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            • unununium

              #7
              Re: Can Admins do this?

              I believe I've seen people start to spawn in their death position then quickly warp to their spawn position, must be a bug.

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              • flanker-f

                #8
                Re: Can Admins do this?

                Admins can't control spawn points but they can teleport players and objects. Setting FF to 40% is just normal, against ranked servers ROE though. I've been teleported to some funniest places you can imagine, but mostly admins do their job. Well admined server is a pleasure to play on but stats/ranks spoil everything.

                Actually if server admin is running BF2 in debug mode (BF2_r.exe?) he can do anything, even spawn flags/spawn points. Dont know if it works online.

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                • Dugman44

                  #9
                  Re: Can Admins do this?

                  Thx all for the replies. Again, I ask the questions not to bash the game, which I play too much, but I was thinking that EA/Dice might be getting shafted for things that arent their fault.

                  I also don't want to bash server owners. I appreciate the expense and trouble of running the servers we all enjoy playing on.

                  But I was concerned that rogue admins might get on those servers and have some fun by setting enemy fire to 75% so their m8ts can run the other side off the map. Or unbalance the game by making the opp spawn in on the sidewalk by square on Kark where the apc is camped, instead of by the square itself where they'd be good to go.

                  Glad to hear its unlikely. Thx all.

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                  • TuscanSun

                    #10
                    Re: Can Admins do this?

                    Sometimes I get a flash of people coming over the ladder BEFORE they actually make it to the top. And I think that I sometimes get flashes of people spawning at a flag but not at the actual spot where they spawn at. I dont know if the flag spawn thing is verifiable but I can guarantee that I have seen people come over the ladder before they actually get there.

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                    • Dooshy

                      #11
                      Re: Can Admins do this?

                      Originally posted by flanker-f
                      but they can teleport players and objects
                      I dont think thats true, not with BF2CC is it possible

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                      • imported_Ownerofall

                        #12
                        Re: Can Admins do this?

                        Originally posted by Dugman44
                        I'm wondering how much power admins have over two things.

                        I played a while back on a server that said in their log on screen that friendly fire was turned down to 40%. In other words, it wasn't on or off, but did only 40% of the normal damage. I didn't think much about it at the time. But I've played alot more and like everyone else I have those funky rounds where a G3 single shot to the head point blank from behind doesn't kill. Now I'm wondering, can admins adjust enemy fire the same way, for one or both teams?

                        Second thing, I was on a server last night and saw evidence that admins can control spawn points. I was usmc. The admin, who was very active, was on MEC. The server, which I won't name, allows spawn camp without armor. So I took my SAW and camped the wide alley. I kill five guys. The bodies and kits are everywhere. Its a massacre scene. The sixth guy starts to spawn in, but then just disappears. Then in two seconds the bodies vanish, and each kit just pops out. In two seconds the alley is clean. Not a slow fade, I mean just like someone wiped the stuff off the screen. I wait there for another twenty seconds, no more spawns, and a MEC comes from behind me and lights me up.

                        Can admins control spawn points? And no, I don't have screenies. I'm not accusing anybody, I just want to know the answers.

                        If you think about it these are huge issues. Do admins have these powers? If so, maybe they shouldn't.

                        nope, at least 99% sure no

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                        • AlphaCueUp

                          #13
                          Re: Can Admins do this?

                          ive seen the ladder glitch many many times.....where they almost instantly shoot to the top of the ladder, then appear near the bottom......also ive seen ppl flash for a second, appearing, and disapearing all within the blink of an eye......i have no explaination for this

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                          • « R²» HKS

                            #14
                            Re: Can Admins do this?

                            Originally posted by flanker-f
                            Admins can't control spawn points but they can teleport players and objects. Setting FF to 40% is just normal, against ranked servers ROE though. I've been teleported to some funniest places you can imagine, but mostly admins do their job. Well admined server is a pleasure to play on but stats/ranks spoil everything.

                            Actually if server admin is running BF2 in debug mode (BF2_r.exe?) he can do anything, even spawn flags/spawn points. Dont know if it works online.
                            Are you on drugs? Admins can't teleport players or objects. They can only switch players to the other team.

                            FF on or off or anything in between is not against the ROE. Please don't spread misinformation when its obvious you have no clue. Geez dude do you make up stuff for the fun of it?

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                            • =50K=Skuz

                              #15
                              Re: Can Admins do this?

                              I'm pretty darn sure you can't teleport people - not with BF2CC anyways. And AFAIK you cannot control spawn points either, first I've heard of that.

                              And as said above FF off is NOT against the ROE. And I don't think it can be changed on the fly; it most likely requires a server restart.

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