Planes/choppers

[Frozo]

I dont know if DICE have looked at how wars are fought these days, but in this high tech age theres a lot in the air. Pretty much whoever controls the air can do what they want. This is how it used to be. A good team would have plenty of ppl in AA and would have good pilots in the planes/choppers. A bad team would be made up of ppl looking out only for themselves. So they hop in their tank and get pwned, cos theres no-one in the AA. Its very easy for pilots to do this when theres nothing stopping them. The same for mashtaar (a map which ppl complain is jst pwned by BH). If ppl jst ignore the BH then of course its gonna kill them cos its far superior to the other transport choppers. However, if you were to get a few more AT guys and vodnicks around, then it is very possible to take that chopper down agen and agen. a gunner can only look in one place at once, so a few AT shud be able to pop up and get a shot away, taking out the pilot is a one shot kill but 2 or 3 can kill whole thing or the engineers inside. Or u cud jst take the BH flag. I found this worked very well, but ppl went and complained.
I can understand why they would want to beef up the AA cos it cudnt really do much b4 and hitting a plane was more luck than skill. Nerfing everything else tho (choppers less missiles, BH less dmg) seems only to cater for the noobs who jst complain cos they jst want to be able do their own thing. If they took on the challenge constuctively and not jst whined then they mite have got somewhere. Teamwork beats everything else in this game.

DICE, listen to more ppl than jst the whiners. see what the more experianced ppl have to say (not me, but there are ppl out there)


not bad for a 1st post :)

[killerkirk]

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I do agree planed do just pwn the place, they aint that hard to fly with a joy stick and can resupply after a few seconds and go back to the same neutral flag just to pwn it again.
Nicerly said Frozo, you seem quite a skilled player.

[$kelet0r]

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choppers less missiles = nerf

well i dispute that :P - DICE got it wrong to begin with - a standard western helicopter has 8 hellfires, a russian has 12 of the equivalent so the 14 that the AHs used to have just didn't make sense

Ontopic - Jets haven't been nerfed at all the way I see it while helicopters needed to be taken down a few notches - they were as tough as an APC ffs and used to be able to hit any target anywhere on the map regardless of range. They did need to be changed.

The problem lies in that it needed to be changed at all - DICE appear to lack a central single vision game design focus which is worrying. Their ethos of nerfing down rather than up doesn't work - if a weapon is too powerful, making other weapons more powerful to compensate makes sense to you and me and most of the community. But then DICE don't listen to us for advice/solutions, just for notice of some the problems.

[sneakybadger]

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they also messed with the hitboxes on choppers and planes didnt they
I SAY frozo u seem very skilled and CRAZY
want some cheese
FROZO>every1else

[Frozo]

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ye i can agree with that. with the attack choppers they have different rates of fire but also different powers so that they balance each other out. with the transport choppers it used to be plain unfair. making the other choppers more powerfull would have worked. A gd rock/paper/scissors system would have worked, but they either made them all the same or jst one way better than the others.

[sneakybadger]

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aaah the old rock paper scissors as demoed in HL2 the source engine led the way (COMPLETE BS)

[Galdigor]

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frozo your my man... i totaly agree :)