Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

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  • Ghilleman

    #76
    Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

    you can always fly low to the ground, turn a corner, enter VTOL, and then go back to regular thrust when he hurtles past. i don't fly, so i don't know if that would work, but you can always try it.

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    • Blades

      #77
      Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

      Guys stop being condescending to metallicaguitrst. He was the one to come on these forums and tell us these tactics. He even made videos. Can we just take out the AA missles. That would be awesome...Just all cannons, like in 1.12

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      • imported_bigpappa
        Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 2159

        #78
        Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

        i love owning noobs in the j-10

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        • Blades

          #79
          Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

          bigpappa have you gotten every one of your posts by spamming useless ****ing ****?

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          • i made you

            #80
            Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

            2 things that could really improve balance:
            -A2A should be like 1.0
            -G2A should be beefed up in range

            This way you have 2 planes flying around scared to go below 400m instead of one plane that's constantly raping everything.

            It's not like this game just came out. Give up, quit whining, and don't buy an EA game again.

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            • colony

              #81
              Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

              Hey I have a bold new idea guys.

              How about making missiles with clean lock 99% accurate like they are in real life? I mean, it only makes sense, doesnt it? You get a good lock on jet and they have no flares, they die, simple and fair, instead of this

              "I can do 40G turns around you so your missiles cant hit me no matter what you do moron in F35"

              Oh I forgot we are talking about DICE here. :laugh:

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              • Blades

                #82
                Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                And dont forget the ability to lock on from 90+ miles!

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                • Chris_Redfield
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 5986

                  #83
                  Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                  Originally posted by colony
                  Hey I have a bold new idea guys.

                  How about making missiles with clean lock 99% accurate like they are in real life? I mean, it only makes sense, doesnt it? You get a good lock on jet and they have no flares, they die, simple and fair, instead of this

                  "I can do 40G turns around you so your missiles cant hit me no matter what you do moron in F35"

                  Oh I forgot we are talking about DICE here. :laugh:
                  I agree, either all hits or all doesnt. However, I also believe adding another 2 seconds to J10s roll speed wouldnt hurt at all

                  Its actually funny to watch Huz.of.PLA taking flame potshots at Metallica at every chance he gets, justified or not.

                  As for dogfighting with cannons only (pre 1.2 situation), I wouldnt want it back. Think about it, how many of you all actually concentrated purely on dogfighting? I know I was 90% dofighter and never ignored an enemy jet, and there were other people like this aswell. But seriously, how many actually gave up on the 10 minute chases?

                  Some enjoyed it, others didnt. Now we have an opposite situation where ignoring means death, ´if they now fixed it so that the jets hit each other equally, everything would be great.


                  My respect goes out to colony and guitarrist- challenge is the way to go.

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                  • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                    Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 3014

                    #84
                    Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                    Man I just got back home. What the hell.. You guys make it sound like I completely suck balls in a jet and I don't know anything.

                    I am not making a "complaining" thread because I got killed by a J-10 a couple of times. It's EVERY BS time I got killed by a J-10... and they think they're all bad and shit.

                    I think I should just do a round of a J-10.. and see what my score would be.. I can guaruntee I can get above 100-0 WITHOUT going to the carrier. I just hate that ****ing jet... it's not even fair.. if I get into it, I feel bad for the other guy, and I only use cannon. I know both sides of the story, unlike some of these exclusive J-10 "pilots" who have high K/D ratios and all that, and it's from using the J-10 only, and most of the time raping the **** outta the carrier.

                    Everytime I see what the HuZ of PLA has to say I just laugh... lmfao.. it's like every time he sees me he tries to degrade my performance in a jet.

                    I think it should be how that guy said.. Beef up the ground AA, way more powerful and better range than now, and then DEGRADE ALL A2A missles. Either that, or make it so that all A2A missles hit exactly the same on every jet. Not this BS where one can't get hit, and then it's missles hit every time... and then the other jet is almost guarunteed to be shot down with the 2 first missles, and it's missles don't work against the other jet.

                    But yeah.. they seriously need to do something.. It's not that I have a hard time killing, it's just that if a J-10 gets behind a JSF... they WILL die, unless the J-10 pilot sucks.. cause there are a few things the JSF can do. But generally... JSF is fucked...

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                    • phen0m

                      #85
                      Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                      Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
                      Man I just got back home. What the hell.. You guys make it sound like I completely suck balls in a jet and I don't know anything.

                      I am not making a "complaining" thread because I got killed by a J-10 a couple of times. It's EVERY BS time I got killed by a J-10... and they think they're all bad and shit.

                      I think I should just do a round of a J-10.. and see what my score would be.. I can guaruntee I can get above 100-0 WITHOUT going to the carrier. I just hate that ****ing jet... it's not even fair.. if I get into it, I feel bad for the other guy, and I only use cannon. I know both sides of the story, unlike some of these exclusive J-10 "pilots" who have high K/D ratios and all that, and it's from using the J-10 only, and most of the time raping the **** outta the carrier.

                      Everytime I see what the HuZ of PLA has to say I just laugh... lmfao.. it's like every time he sees me he tries to degrade my performance in a jet.

                      I think it should be how that guy said.. Beef up the ground AA, way more powerful and better range than now, and then DEGRADE ALL A2A missles. Either that, or make it so that all A2A missles hit exactly the same on every jet. Not this BS where one can't get hit, and then it's missles hit every time... and then the other jet is almost guarunteed to be shot down with the 2 first missles, and it's missles don't work against the other jet.

                      But yeah.. they seriously need to do something.. It's not that I have a hard time killing, it's just that if a J-10 gets behind a JSF... they WILL die, unless the J-10 pilot sucks.. cause there are a few things the JSF can do. But generally... JSF is fucked...

                      Hey Hey Hey dont hate on us High KTD ratio ppl. I hardly ever use the J-10 and have no problem shooting them down, like I have said the F-18 is much harder. I still dont see the huge huge problem with the J10, yes it's missles do seem to track the F35 real well but hey what can you do, just get better as a pilot. I haven't been shot down by a J10 in probably 3 weeks and that was lucky when I stalled at like 1000 M and couldnt move.


                      EDIT: also you comment that once a J10 gets behind an F35 is totally untrue. Its pretty easy to shake and bake.

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                      • XmetallicaXguitarstX
                        Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3014

                        #86
                        Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                        Originally posted by phen0m
                        Hey Hey Hey dont hate on us High KTD ratio ppl. I hardly ever use the J-10 and have no problem shooting them down, like I have said the F-18 is much harder. I still dont see the huge huge problem with the J10, yes it's missles do seem to track the F35 real well but hey what can you do, just get better as a pilot. I haven't been shot down by a J10 in probably 3 weeks and that was lucky when I stalled at like 1000 M and couldnt move.


                        EDIT: also you comment that once a J10 gets behind an F35 is totally untrue. Its pretty easy to shake and bake.
                        Yeah if they are fairly close behind you can pull some moves, but if they are at like max distance.. you know... there isn't much your gonna do to get them off of you. Because now you aren't trying to break missle lock.. you are trying to outrun/trick the missles.. which is damn near impossible with the JSF.

                        That is what happens.. EVERY time I get shot down, it's because i'm chasing another J-10. At that point, if I get locked on... I don't care what I do because I know i'm dead because my goal is to take that one J-10 out.. so I will do anything.

                        And my K/D isn't BAD. It's just that from the time I started I didn't care about deaths and kills.. k/d... etc. I didn't know about all that. It wasn't until like 20 hours of flying time that I realized that.

                        My K/D is around 11.5 right now though w/ basically 20k kills.

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                        • imported_Wreck

                          #87
                          Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                          Originally posted by phen0m
                          Hey Hey Hey dont hate on us High KTD ratio ppl. I hardly ever use the J-10 and have no problem shooting them down, like I have said the F-18 is much harder. I still dont see the huge huge problem with the J10, yes it's missles do seem to track the F35 real well but hey what can you do, just get better as a pilot. I haven't been shot down by a J10 in probably 3 weeks and that was lucky when I stalled at like 1000 M and couldnt move.


                          EDIT: also you comment that once a J10 gets behind an F35 is totally untrue. Its pretty easy to shake and bake.

                          Yeah, it's so easy not to get shot down when you are cheating.

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                          • Apex Rising

                            #88
                            Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                            Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
                            I hate J-10's so much man... it's a pussy plane. ESPECIALLY if you rape the carrier with it.


                            I am having alot of rounds lately where I am playing against "average" pilots (I have been flying with them for a while on the server)... who I KNOW I am better than... I get away from them magically like 5 times... but EVERY time I try to take one out, the other guy gets lucky and ends up behind me. Me vs 1 J-10 that doesn't see me, I will kill them 95%.

                            This guy I was chasing actually knew how to look behind him.. etc. I just realised how impossible it is..

                            I caught him off-gaurd and killed him a couple times, and ended with more kills/less deaths... so I did better than him.. but that isn't the point.. When this gay ass jet gets behind me... there are only 3 things I can do. I can: A) get as high as I can and fast as I can, and try to outrun him B) I can turn and break his sight of me/missle lock while throttling down, and hope for the best.. or C) I can bail.

                            :laugh:

                            Man.. all the J-10 has to do to get away, is go in a circle 2 times... and they will catch up with the JSF.

                            agghhhh i'm done complaining... all I can say is, they seriously need to fix this bullshit. That thing is so unbalanced it isn't funny...

                            I agree with you on every level.

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                            • ImgSunscreen

                              #89
                              Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                              Originally posted by phen0m
                              Hey Hey Hey dont hate on us High KTD ratio ppl. I hardly ever use the J-10 and have no problem shooting them down, like I have said the F-18 is much harder. I still dont see the huge huge problem with the J10, yes it's missles do seem to track the F35 real well but hey what can you do, just get better as a pilot. I haven't been shot down by a J10 in probably 3 weeks and that was lucky when I stalled at like 1000 M and couldnt move.


                              EDIT: also you comment that once a J10 gets behind an F35 is totally untrue. Its pretty easy to shake and bake.
                              That's just kind of rediculous dude. You can be the best pilot in game - the fact remains that there is an issue with the J10. Hell, the F35's missiles don't even like to hit the PLA chopper. If you sit and watch a J10 vs. F35 dogfight, you'll see the J10 making insane turns, completely unfairly destroying an F35.

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                              • Chris_Redfield
                                Member
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 5986

                                #90
                                Re: Ok.. this is BS. The J-10 totally needs to just DIE!

                                Originally posted by phen0m
                                Hey Hey Hey dont hate on us High KTD ratio ppl. I hardly ever use the J-10 and have no problem shooting them down, like I have said the F-18 is much harder. I still dont see the huge huge problem with the J10, yes it's missles do seem to track the F35 real well but hey what can you do, just get better as a pilot. I haven't been shot down by a J10 in probably 3 weeks and that was lucky when I stalled at like 1000 M and couldnt move.


                                EDIT: also you comment that once a J10 gets behind an F35 is totally untrue. Its pretty easy to shake and bake.
                                Yeah man, you wouldnt even need to look back to see whether or not youve shaken J10, all visible on the radar, it is!

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