EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

[Brindled]

After 2142: Reverting To Older Patch Idea

once 2142 comes out, we'll need to figure which patch suits everybody the most and revert back to it.:hmm:

[N2K]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

No 2142 here

[18Zulukiller]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Wow i don't beleave that reply from the DICE representitive its just ridiculas its not like people were getting to use all the unlocks on ranked servers. For me before i EARNED all of them it was a way to test the weapons and see what i wanted to unlock before wasting one (some of the unlocks are just crap and are a waste were some are a major improvment over the default guns the pkm for example).

[Heatseeker_no.1]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Second, the unlocks are disabled, because of abuses within the community of the alternative ranking systems, which would allow anyone to use all unlocks when they had not earned them. This kind of abuse cheapens the experience for those players (including myself) who have played and earned our unlocks the right way.

This has got to be one of the stupidest things ever said on these forums, no-one cares if you use unlocks on an unranked server, so why does EA?

[WDA_Endless954]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

I've developed a new love for standard guns since 1.3, lol. USMC or MEC, they all kick ass. Just keep me the hell away from the PLA. I've been using the M-4 all the time now even in ranked games.

[Verzili]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Ok, the rumor mill has run too long on this. First of all, EA doesn't make money from Ranked servers. The Ranked Server providers make the money, and in return they provide a limited number of servers to EA. EA spends money to keep things like the stats system going.

Second, the unlocks are disabled, because of abuses within the community of the alternative ranking systems, which would allow anyone to use all unlocks when they had not earned them. This kind of abuse cheapens the experience for those players (including myself) who have played and earned our unlocks the right way.

now this is a mind boggle,you say the unlocks were disabled beacuse of abuse within the abr community? now EA representatives gave permission to abr go look at there website.

thease guys worked hard to keep stat padding away from there servers ect.
im sure if you asked them to keep servers from running all unlocks for all players they would of stop them doing so.

now abr worked closely with a few bf2 mods for stats(thats what abr is all about stats not unlocks for all)

they were even creating new awards and having competions for ribbions and medals ect.

i personaly only play on ranked server(uk)if i had the time to search through the server list for a abr server with all unlocks this would not bother me if i saw a 32 man abr server with global unlocks set to 1(why have the stupid option there in front of my loading screen on every map load it cant be used?)

i have all unlocks bar p90 and engy light mg thease i would never use.

now 1.3 has stop good clan players from using unlocks witch is not fair on them,you clearly state you removed them to stop abr using all unlocks,but there still on 1.22 so you havent stop anything conserning that,

but you have managed to stop ladders ,clan games from using what they have earned,this is a great injustice imho.

i dont play ladder or clan games as my clan doesnt have enough players yet.
but i cant see myself playing any clan game without my l96a1 i use that thing on ranked servers in a squad with my m8 on ranked servers for 6months.

the comunity needs there unlocks back for ladder play please put it back in in 1.4

clan players and probaly 99% of puplic players dont care if abr as servers with all unlocks enabled.

thats not what matters to them,were more consernd with bugs and haxors to find the time to complain about a abr unlocks for all server.

do a search on this forum and see how many threads complain about abr unlocks for all,then do a bug search on this forum,that in it self will tell the story.

yes my post was a tad flamming but i kept it clean.

it can be frustrating with the answer you gave.
please consider changing the option back,

peace out:)

[cheesewz]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Second, the unlocks are disabled, because of abuses within the community of the alternative ranking systems, which would allow anyone to use all unlocks when they had not earned them. This kind of abuse cheapens the experience for those players (including myself) who have played and earned our unlocks the right way.

This has to be one of the least thought out responses from DICE ever posted on these forums.

We're talking about UNRANKED servers. How can allowing unlocks cheapen the experience? Isn't part of the whole difference between ranked and unranked, that you can run an unranked any way you want to? They don't feed into the regular stats system, so if you want a pistol & knife only, or allow unlocks, that is your business. If people are so concerned about whether someone "earned" an unlock then they can go play on a ranked server.

All you are doing is yet again ****ing on the community that buys your game. Unless you guys make some changes in course I suspect that many of the community members who have supported you since BF 1942 are not going to buy BF 2142.

[imported_HisChadness]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Wow. Just, wow. This wasn't mentioned in the patch description, and if it turns out to be undeniably true, then EA/Dice is obviously using some malicious schemes to try and get people to play on Ranked servers.

Are you really that blind? That's the whole point. Pay extra money to provide ranked servers so all the pubbies can play with their unlocks and get all their little badges and ranks.

[imported_Deliverance]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Ok, the rumor mill has run too long on this. First of all, EA doesn't make money from Ranked servers. The Ranked Server providers make the money, and in return they provide a limited number of servers to EA. EA spends money to keep things like the stats system going.

Second, the unlocks are disabled, because of abuses within the community of the alternative ranking systems, which would allow anyone to use all unlocks when they had not earned them. This kind of abuse cheapens the experience for those players (including myself) who have played and earned our unlocks the right way.

I really do hope that you in no way represent the official stance on DICE about this because, and to be frank, youve just managed to **** off even MORE Bf2 players. Do you have ANY idea how many clans, leagues, ladders, whatever have now simply given up? Really, do you? These clans are the ones who pay for ranked servers, and yes, we know the money doesnt go to EA, but these (on the whole) teamwork promoting servers allow all the unsuspecting pubbies to play. I know i bought BF2 after playing on a clan server on my mates account for a couple of hours. How many other people did the same? I suspect a significant enough number to worry the pockets of your superiors.

What about those people who HAVE earnt their unlocks and now cant use them because you (DICE) couldnt be arsed to spend a bit of money to find a proper fix to the problem instead of slapping a quick fix plaster on top of it? Mind you, this is what we have come to expect of EA/DICE

I wasnt intending on buying 2142, after what you just said, i WILL NOT be buying it. And i suspect neither will alot of people.

You people need to pull you finger out your arse and wake up to the real world instead of being so concerned with cutting corners and saving a few quid by altering things that actually never needed altering in the first place.

[imported_Ownerofall]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

I know you probably already know, but with 1.3 unlocks are no longer able to used in unranked mode.

TWL had to shut down some of their ladders/leagues, because that was what was different from the other ladders, unlocks were used in them.

Stupid move.

i agree, ea shouldnt of done it

[MackTheKnifeAU]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Ok, the rumor mill has run too long on this. First of all, EA doesn't make money from Ranked servers.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA. Just lol.

Bf2 Ranked Server = 24 Max Player Slots = $84.00 Monthly
CS:S 24 Max Player Slots = $42.24 Monthly
UTk2004 = $42.00 Monthly

http://www.artofwarcentral.com

Your telling me that that it costs twice as much for no real reason?

The Ranked Server providers make the money, and in return they provide a limited number of servers to EA. EA spends money to keep things like the stats system going.

If by "going" you mean crashing and requiring mainteance every week, then yeah, awesome. Oh poor EA, how can they afford this outrageous prices.

Second, the unlocks are disabled, because of abuses within the community of the alternative ranking systems, which would allow anyone to use all unlocks when they had not earned them.

I am so glad you disabled the 100 teams in my "local" bf2 ladder from using unlocks in clan matches because of a handful of people who decided to play unlocks on, in an unranked server, which neither effects those playing on the "ranked" servers, or matters much at all. Can I give you a blow job now please? DICE and EA have already bent over the bf2 community, might as well finish the job.

Why does unlocks on unranked servers matter? If it's unranked, it means they can't effect the "ranked" stats. It means they are not playing against people who have chosen to play with using the regular unlock system. It means they are simply deciding to use all the weapons EA has provided, but without wasting time on ranked servers, which they probably don't like because of tards, stat padders, or teamkillers or just want to play friendly fire off.

And even that amount of people would pale in comparison to unranked servers which used the regular unlock stuff (ie you use what you have in ranked servers).

Note: When combining this travesty, with the dismal 1.3 patch, the ladder that was supposed to be locked for 3 days to give the teams a chance to get used to the new spawn system, has been locked since then after this, and the crashing discoveries..

This kind of abuse cheapens the experience for those players (including myself) who have played and earned our unlocks the right way.

How? If you play on a ranked server, then who gives a **** if joe nobody plays on a unranked server.

Ps, I belive the fact you guys have failed to include any more maps since wake, the fact the game crashes every few hours, the servers crash, screwing up the game for weeks at a time after every patch, the fact the game has never been properly tested, and it was rushed out in the first place, has "cheapened" my "experience" 200x more than any possible thought about some guys using unlocks in unranked servers ever did.

HELL, the RED TAG bug has "cheapend" my experience more than the possiblity of nasty people using the unlocks they have not earned, tut tut, on their lans or whatever.

A summary of my thoughts about your entire post:
I'll believe that when my **** turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert.

EA and DICE, you need to get off your arse, and go and do some work to help the community, maybe you'll salvage something from the ashes of the constant atrocities you have inflicted on the community as a whole.

[[STO] Killer Dragon]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

UNlocks are for noobs. Thats that :)

[Bonsai]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

typical response from anyone involved with ea.



the fact is they want bf2 to die so people move straight onto 2142 hense cutting out the modding community who have kept previous ea games going for a few years.

[Sir. MatDef]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Ok, while I've always been a vocal opponent of 2142 (for reasons you've all heard many times before), I never was going to try to stop my friends from buying. Now, thanks to your post, I'll be telling everyone that I know to avoid this game and all new games from dice/ea in the future. Great job.

[Heatseeker_no.1]

Re: EA has intentionally stopped unlocks in clan matches with 1.3?

Ok, while I've always been a vocal opponent of 2142 (for reasons you've all heard many times before), I never was going to try to stop my friends from buying. Now, thanks to your post, I'll be telling everyone that I know to avoid this game and all new games from dice/ea in the future. Great job.

Same here, I'm not going to pay a company that deliberately sabotages its products. That's like buying a car, and then having the dealer come and vandalise it a year later so you buy another.