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  • Kixfox

    #1

    Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

    Hi!

    Let me first explain what pure means:
    When a server on BF2 is pure, it means that it will search your computer for cheats during "Verifying client data", it does the MD5 hash thingy.

    That's simple...
    But what's not simple is that it takes about 2 minutes to verify for me, it's just too long.. Map takes from 1-3 minutes to load, it depends.

    Therefor I always join non-pure servers - linux servers.
    But now after 1.3 patch even linux has pure on!

    This freaks me out, I really love this game!
    But now I can't play it... oh well, I can if I want to wait 4~ minutes to join a server, but who wants to sit and listen to that annoying music (mute button works, I know) in 4 minutes waiting to get on a server that probaly will change the map when you join? (Happends all the time)

    My system specs is in my signature, I don't know why verifying takes so long time...

    I have done some tweaks, no big ones though.

    Anyone have any idea what to do?
    When the mods comes out I can play those...
    I know some mods are out, but I didn't really like USI - it was nice and I thought it was fun playing.. but it got boring with only vehicle fights.
    PRMM - it's realistic and fun! But I want something else.
    OPR - was really fun, only a couple of bugs. Waiting for the next realese!

    Kind regards,
    Eric - Kixfox
  • WesleyS

    #2
    Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

    I run into this problem about every other month. Sometimes it is fixable with a fresh install of BF2. Sometimes it fixes with a Reformat of my C: Drive. Sometimes there is a nasty virus/Trojan on my machine that slows it down.
    Perhaps one of these things coud be your problem.

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    • Kixfox

      #3
      Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

      Virus/Trojan: No, I have never had a virus/trojan in a long time! Last time I had something near a virus/trojan, was Service Pack 2 for Windows... really ****ed up my computer.

      Reformat C: Maybe it would work, but I got tooooooo much that I need to save.

      It has always been like this, since I got BF2.
      But I could handle it by joining non-pure servers before...

      Edit:
      I did a fresh install when I installed BF2 to my other drive (D: ) and it didn't help.
      D: is my game drive and C: is my storage drive.

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      • Mekstizzle

        #4
        Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

        Yeah it's annoying. (Btw before 1.3 some Linux servers did have verification, you could tell wether it had it or not with the green computer monitor sign next to the server name in the server browser)

        Slows everything down. Also causes alot of ingame lag becuase the verification process just is one big resource hog.

        Edit: And you can't escape it until it's done. Short of turning of the computer.

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        • imported_Vibronics

          #5
          Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

          Takes me about 5 minutes to get into a server once selected, always has done, get used to it go make a sandwich, trim your toenails, take a leak, take over the world time soon flies by

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          • Kixfox

            #6
            Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

            Yeah I know about the green monitor! :)
            But no win servers had pure off.

            And it's true, you can't escape it.. It's like a virus!
            I have also noticed the ingame lag that comes with it, and it actually takes some time for the graphics to get better!

            First you lag, and everything is like stuttering and the graphics are stutter/shimmer.
            But after awhile it goes away.

            Edit:
            Vibronics: Yeah, but now you can't see server details. Sure, I can play with pure on if I only chosed 3 round per map servers... but now I don't know if its 1 or 100 rounds per map, it only shows zeroes...

            And I need to watch what I'm eating, I always want to eat!

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            • imported_Vibronics

              #7
              Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

              Yep same thing happens to me cant see any details, sure is fustrating but has lead me to some new good servers and random maps i dont normally play

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              • HowieMandel

                #8
                Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                hmmmmmmmm intresting.

                Within the first few minutes of a game, I too notice some lag. Within minutes my first shot was a sniper shot........i saw a guy on a hill, i laid down..aimed my sniper rifle, too careful aiming.....and shot. Poof. Nothing. I thought to myself, man......i swear i was dead on. Right after that complete thought.....I saw him die (in my scope) and with me killing him. It was seriously, a full 3-5 seconds after I fired. LOL. wacky. But now that i think about this, this happens alot since patching.
                I do however, like the patch.

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                • Miniman

                  #9
                  Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                  the next patch should try to cut down verifying

                  and why do you need to verify when changing maps? your not changing server or anything...

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                  • Kixfox

                    #10
                    Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                    Yeah, I agree Miniman.

                    HowieMandel: That sounds strange, I've never been expriance that kind of thing. :S It must have been some package loss or something.

                    It's sad that we - the honest players - have to suffer because there are cheats out there!
                    But why, oh why, do they have such a ... secure ... but stupid way to handle cheats?
                    Why can't they handle things like Valve do? I know there are alot more cheaters in CS though.
                    But now me and many more have to suffer. I felt today "oh man, I wanna play BF2 so bad... oh wait a minute.. I don't wanna wait ages to load a server".

                    I don't think 5 minutes is so bad to wait, but it's so bad to wait when the server change maps every round... :/

                    I have to make a 'what-to-do' with things to do while verification.

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                    • ptegan
                      Member
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 2666

                      #11
                      Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                      Its down to your ide controllers.



                      The following is from another forum


                      It used to take me 3-4 minutes but my problem was not memory, it was the speed of the HD the game was installed to. Even though it was a newer HD, Windows was running it in PIO Access mode so I was getting 4.3 Meg / sec transfer speed. Once I got it switched to Ultra DMA Mode 4, I got 44 Megs / sec transfer and now verify in about 35 seconds. Download a program called HDTach and let it benchmark your hard drive speeds.

                      HDTach download

                      If you get a low speed (I had about 3.5mb on my BF2 drive, then do the following)

                      1) How to check...

                      If you are running XP, go to device manager and expand 'IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers' Right click on 'Primary channel' and choose properties. (Primary is usually the channel you HD's are connected to)

                      Click on the 'Advanced Settings' tab, this will show the devices connected to that channel, and their current speeds. Virtually all modern hard drives should be running in Ultra DMA mode 5. Maxtor's on the right chipsets run Mode 6, and most CDrom drives run Mode 2. Any HD's running in PIO mode will seriously affect loading times, as this is the slowest speed possible.

                      2) How to fix...
                      XP will slow down the speed of devices if it receives errors while using the device, until it gets to PIO mode. This could be due to faulty cables, device or drivers.

                      First thing to try is simply change the the transfer mode to 'DMA if available' and reboot. If that does not fix it, uninstall the controller and reboot. XP should reinstall it and reset the fastest transfer speeds. You could also try both the MS drivers and the chipset manufacturers. (I had to install the NVidia drivers on my NF4 chipset, to fix IDE problems. I have also had them cause problems on my NF2 chipset system, so try both)

                      If it deteriorates or this doesn't fix it, check to make sure you are using 80pin cables, and that any transfer/DMA settings are correct in the BIOS.

                      Hope this helps.

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                      • Angelsoul

                        #12
                        Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                        Good to hear that its not just me.

                        Takes about 3 mins for me to get through verification process, once the map is loaded. Post 1.3.

                        I am not that techical but thought it was my PC it was wrong with :cry:

                        My transfer speed went from 3.2 to 68. It did help to uninstill the IDE control file. Big Thx! ptegan

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                        • baggygreen

                          #13
                          Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                          My verifying has always taken a long time, running off a wireless ADSL connection i assumed that was the cause. however since 1.3, it seems to take up to 5 minutes. I often play maps that are 24/7 just to avoid said verification. 1.3 also seems to me to be more laggy when theres players with a high ping in the server (250+). Having said that i do love the patch.

                          I agree completely with miniman, there is absolutely no reason to have a verification before loading a new map, it is a waste of time and on maps with only 2 rounds per rotation it is a pain in the posterior!

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                          • TheHeartSmasher
                            The Architect
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 696

                            #14
                            Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                            If you want to speed up the verify process you need a faster processor 2.1 Ghz is not good enough you need at the minimum a 3.0 ghz so if your processor says 2.0 next to it on the specs that is the real clock speed. You also need to have at least 2 GB of ram. When I go to join a map the maximum waiting time for me is 2 to 3 minutes. The longest process is the nice little 62% part. Other than that the verify process is only about 10 to 20 seconds and should always be there it keeps the game fair for all.

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                            • ptegan
                              Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 2666

                              #15
                              Re: Only pure servers after 1.3 patch!

                              It's not alway RAM though. I get a verify time of 25 seconds with 2Gb and 25 seconds with 1Gb. The RAm seems to help with the map laoding times but not the verify section which has more to do with CPU and hard drive speeds it seems.

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