Nerf down planes?

[evilzucchini]

Re: Nerf down planes?

I have no problems with the planes.

Granted, I spend most of my time on city maps. However, I play Wake a lot and that seems to be a pretty plane biased level and even then I end up winning the round (as a ground pounder) a significant amount of the time.

Planes should dominate and they do. However, they don't dominate so much that the game is not fun when you aren't in one.

Leave em be.

[Leeus]

Re: Nerf down planes?

I hate to bring the in real life card into this, but jets are supposed to own the battlefield. I agree, I wish not every newbie could fly them, and I wish there was even a sort of licensing system.

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No.
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Any new shoulder fired rocket can take down a plane in no time...
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http://www.defense-update.com/products/s/stinger.htm
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Real world- 90% accuracy...
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BF2- about 50-50.

[pYura]

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well where is the 20% who says yes?

[Talus]

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MMmmmmmm..limited number of flares...

ME LIKE!

[imported_Underpant]

Re: Nerf down planes?

I don't agree. Every newbie "should" be allowed to fly them. Problem is, every newbie on the ground should be able to assault against them with an equal footing once the proper armament is aquired. Currently, even when you mount the weapons designed for Anti-Jet purposes you still have a 10-25% change of being the victor; that's me being sligtly liberal.

Also, I cannot answer that poll because it's extremely biased. It could be that a "Part-Time" pilot such as myself notices that it's far too easy to destroy ground units and rarely do I have to worry about a counter offensive unless there is another Jet in the sky.

...maybe add in that option and I will bother to vote.

{WP}Paas

I didn't say they shouldn't be allowed, I said could fly them. Like what the other guy said, it is way too easy to fly them an be effective. They do need to beef up AA, but not so anyone on the AA on the tip of Wake gets 30 kills from everything that flies by him. The biggest change that needs to be made in this game is make all the jets equal, they don't all have to be identical, but they need to be able to combat eachother, rather than the lock-wait for flares-kill system.

[HowieMandel]

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either nerf the planes, or up the the stuff to take them out.
THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS............
however, im fairly certain, 97% of these so - called good pilots out there, be it, plane, or helo, wouldnt even be in the top 1 thousand, in Desert Combat.
Yes, this isnt DC.

Played DC again, for the first time since BF2 Demo. Let me tell, you, it looks like there is a major switch going on from BF2 to DC. From what I see. Wacky.
But, you know what, DC is way more fun then bf2. Try it. ANd if you hate AIR, then definitly give DC a try.

[Pilo-II]

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AA has already been 'beefed up'. It used to be useless now it actually hits the targets. Which makes the jet pilot to go back and get it fixed (if it doesn't get killed in the first place), mean while people on the ground can do their thing. AA does not need to be more powerfull!

[$kelet0r]

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If I had been in charge of the vision that is behind BF2 I would dictate that all vehicles demand 2 players to operate so that in my ideal world you would only see F15s, Su30s and Su34s in the air
BUT I would remove the dumb bombs completely and give the jets the current speed and handling of the superior fighters which is far more realistic
Improving the missile AI is a given but my vision for dogfighting would be that you have to maintain lock for the missiles to hit so that outmanouvering lock is possible, not outmanouvering the missile like it is now. Flares would be in batches of three to be used at will so that using them has to be tactical (use them all at once and you are screwed~). Missiles would be vicinity detonated like in real life not direct hit. Landing would be mandatory meaning that the pilot and gunner would be encouraged to stay in the air for as long as possible before rearming/repairing. The planes would have a quick turnaround function on the runway to make life easier. - conclusion - this all emphasises pilot skill and gunner teamwork. Infantry would get stingers and fixed AA would become a TOW or something useful.
Simple as
Hell while I'm on a roll pilots would not get a free points hit box for enemy vehicles (althought the x for friendlies would show up always) unless the pilot or any teammate 'lased' or spotted a target for the gunner.

Unfortunately that will never happen unless of course someone comes to me on a community patch for bf2 lol i can dream

SO back to reality
Jets are ok - they especially the fighters (even the j10) require alot of skill to use effectively so I would hate to see that skill dumbed down or punished. Rather I'd prefer to see fixed AA (not mobile) beefed up to give the infantry a fighting chance.
- Fix the J10s advantage or give the F35 an airbrake
- Improve the missiles so that they actually hit the J10 :laugh:
- Make the Fixed AA useful again (I miss you 1.2 ;()

The real message from me here is this - DICE rethink your philosophy, make other weapons more powerful to combat a powerful weapon, instead of nerfing the best toys

[*Lost*Soldier*]

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ALL IS FINE AA is fine jets and hellos are fine

[BirdKiller]

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Users can't really take the polls or surveys seriously if their choices are obviously biased to one side. Next time, try to make a simple and clean poll where each choice doesn't contain "second thought" in them.

[$kelet0r]

Re: Nerf down planes?

ALL IS FINE AA is fine jets and hellos are fine

lol
yep - not a cloud in the sky, brotherly love reigns, utopians unite :laugh:
Ok wnough ribbin' - the game is damn good but you have to admit some stuff still could use finetuning
Jets in the right/wrong hands are still unstopppable

[pYura]

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Users can't really take the polls or surveys seriously if their choices are obviously biased to one side. Next time, try to make a simple and clean poll where each choice doesn't contain "second thought" in them.

how do you like this:

NO, I'm a masohist.
Yes, I get kills too easy.
:laugh:

thx for advice :p

[SERIALBUTCHER]

Re: Nerf down planes?

This unbalance cannot be solved because of ratio

If our enemies had an AH, & 1, or 2 jets for every 30 of our troops I would be a "contientious objector", & hide in Cananda

IRL we have what, 1 jet to maybe a 1000 troops?

If IRL I had any idea that my infantry company was going to face arty bombardment, & all that air power, w/ satelite capability, they could just take me to jail, screw that BS

The imbalance is in the small scale of the game, & cannot be fixed in any way that has balance, & resembles reality @ the same time

peace:)

[sull]

Re: Nerf down planes?

Leave it, leave it all alone before it gets worse.

[PBAsydney]

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I dont think they need to be nerfed, i dont think they should be able to fly as slow as some people fly thm though. Planes are supposed to be that powerful and unless you're in a SU-34 it is actually hard to get the timings right to drop bombs.

LOL, no...It's a piece of cake to hit the bomb right into the top of that tank.