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  • poisonsoul

    #16
    Re: another j10 thread

    Originally posted by <}US{> Need_2_Kill
    I dont always play Wake, how about dalian and dragon valley?
    Well, I don't play dalian or dragon valley, so :p.

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    • N2K

      #17
      Re: another j10 thread

      Dalian is fun, is a lot smaller then Wake so a better chance of getting shot down, or chasing a j10

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      • XmetallicaXguitarstX
        Member
        • Jul 2006
        • 3014

        #18
        Re: another j10 thread

        Originally posted by Hu.Z_of_PLA
        some people here always pretend that they can take down J10 with cannon and what not, but it only works if the enemy flies in a straight line and doesn't check his six.

        all told, whenever you shot down a j10, you know the pilot has just bought the game.
        Man, you are really starting to piss me the fuck off...


        Stop trying to discredit people who are able to shoot down J-10's. It IS hard to shoot them down no matter WHAT you say.

        ALL pilots, good or bad, will eventually be vulnerable and fly in a straight line and not check his six.

        If you disagree with that last statement, let me ask this...

        If you are trying to shoot down a helicopter... you are telling me, that whole time you are shooting, you are flipping back and forth... looking behind you and in front of you? B.S.!

        You say "I don't understand whats so skillful about going into bomb mode and using cannons"... well another question... would you say the opposite of that... is skillful? Flying in a J-10... with your missle mode on.... and fire 2 missles? Or if you say "but no metallica, im talking about the other jets." Well, if you are up against the J-10, and you try to lock on to the J-10... that is literally suicide. That is just fucking retarded... not "skill".

        I just googled the definition of skill, and:
        • an ability that has been acquired by training
        • ability to produce solutions in some problem domain

        Now .. you say switching to bomb mode isn't anything... you say sneaking and waiting for the enemy to go straight... isn't skill.

        I disagree completely... To kill a J-10, you need to "produce solutions in some problem domain".

        So... what IS the "real" way to take out a J-10 smartass? EVERY time I kill a GOOD J-10 pilot, and I say something, you say that "so and so is a noob... he can't dogfight"... either that, or you say that I am lying.

        It sounds to me like you just can't accept the fact that some people are better than you at something and you make excuses.

        Say what you want bro, but just because a J-10 pilot gets shot down, doesn't automatically mean he sucks, or it was something that took "no skill" or a "cheap tactic".

        This isn't based off of that one little quote.. this is for all the shit you say regarding J-10's and them getting shot down by JSF's.

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        • colony

          #19
          Re: another j10 thread

          You can shoot down J10s but good pilots in J10 will never ever get shot down, especially against an F35.

          With F35 you can get away and stuff, but to take down a good J10 pilot is just about impossible.

          Fact remains you shouldnt have a jet invulnerable to the opposing jets missiles. The F35 is at such a disadvantage its ridiculous. longer lock time, worse turning, less afterburner, useless missiles....why? I dont know, DICE just doesnt care about real world stuff. J10 would be destroyed in real life by F35, but they dont base BF2 off reality, they are in their own world.

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          • =IMO=THJones

            #20
            Re: another j10 thread

            Originally posted by zhpkiller
            I hate to break this to you, but carrier base ramping does not a good J10 pilot make.
            huh whos talking about carrier raping?

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            • ACE_FIN1972

              #21
              Re: another j10 thread

              Well this thread was started by making declaration that J-10 doesn't own the sky. metallicaguitrst here says that is not true and then he says that by sneaking and waiting for a correct moment u may take J-10 down with cannon. Well what is domination exect power to be superior. When flying with J-10 u know that most of the time it's enough to gain lock and shoot two missiles and opponent is history. On the other hand if your opponent gets a lock on you, for most of the times u can evade the missiles simply by doing a tight turn. Even with being a little careless u can wipe the others from the sky.

              There are extremely good pilots like Metallica seems to be, and those fellows have few tricks in the pocket, so yes they can beat J-10. But Since when one soldier has made a difference. J-10 own the sky with few exeptions

              Period

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              • Hu.Z_of_PLA

                #22
                Re: another j10 thread

                Originally posted by <}US{> Need_2_Kill
                Nope, i shot down high ranking with it, since they think they are in a j10 they think they are untouchable. Even after flairs missle will hit, if you get lucky, i have hit j10s with missles as they were turning.

                I dont pretend what i can do...
                high rank does not mean that they are not stupid. If a f35b sneaks up to a J10, then the J10 is STUPID, PERIOD.

                Look, I know how to kill the J10 in JSF to, but basically you are flying a plane with 1.12 missile against a plane with 1.2 missile. In 1.2 it was all fine, both side can hit. But some noobs started whining about bugs on Zatar wetland (right, like we ever play it), and then the missile was ****ed.

                Originally posted by metallicaguitrst
                Man, you are really starting to piss me the fuck off...


                Stop trying to discredit people who are able to shoot down J-10's. It IS hard to shoot them down no matter WHAT you say.

                ALL pilots, good or bad, will eventually be vulnerable and fly in a straight line and not check his six.

                If you disagree with that last statement, let me ask this...

                If you are trying to shoot down a helicopter... you are telling me, that whole time you are shooting, you are flipping back and forth... looking behind you and in front of you? B.S.!

                You say "I don't understand whats so skillful about going into bomb mode and using cannons"... well another question... would you say the opposite of that... is skillful? Flying in a J-10... with your missle mode on.... and fire 2 missles? Or if you say "but no metallica, im talking about the other jets." Well, if you are up against the J-10, and you try to lock on to the J-10... that is literally suicide. That is just fucking retarded... not "skill".

                I just googled the definition of skill, and:
                • an ability that has been acquired by training
                • ability to produce solutions in some problem domain

                Now .. you say switching to bomb mode isn't anything... you say sneaking and waiting for the enemy to go straight... isn't skill.

                I disagree completely... To kill a J-10, you need to "produce solutions in some problem domain".

                So... what IS the "real" way to take out a J-10 smartass? EVERY time I kill a GOOD J-10 pilot, and I say something, you say that "so and so is a noob... he can't dogfight"... either that, or you say that I am lying.

                It sounds to me like you just can't accept the fact that some people are better than you at something and you make excuses.

                Say what you want bro, but just because a J-10 pilot gets shot down, doesn't automatically mean he sucks, or it was something that took "no skill" or a "cheap tactic".

                This isn't based off of that one little quote.. this is for all the shit you say regarding J-10's and them getting shot down by JSF's.
                stop living in your self-made bubble. I have watched your video, and frankly, it was worthless. You shot a noob for 3 seconds from behind and he went down. WOW. You do realize that you get a red indicator if you are getting shot at (I am amazed that he hasn't manuvered at that moment). That doesn;t make you the supreme pilot that you make yourself to be. Skillwise, I have played a couple of games where I scored more than you ON FOOT (while you were in a helicopter).

                I am sorry, I just don't see how you get overhyped into this supreme pilot AFTER seeing you fly. i don't buy it, period. I play in the same server that you typically play, mind you.

                Let me tell you, at the moment I see that red indicator, I will begin to manuver and you will be outmanuvered. I do sincerely believe that whoever has been shot down in J10 is a complete noob. As soon as the J10 starts manuvering against you, your only option is to fly to the stratosphere and reposition yourself again. This does not work against a pilot who will repair his J10 in the mean time.

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                • Chris_Redfield
                  Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 5986

                  #23
                  Re: another j10 thread

                  Originally posted by Hu.Z_of_PLA
                  high rank does not mean that they are not stupid. If a f35b sneaks up to a J10, then the J10 is STUPID, PERIOD.

                  Look, I know how to kill the J10 in JSF to, but basically you are flying a plane with 1.12 missile against a plane with 1.2 missile. In 1.2 it was all fine, both side can hit. But some noobs started whining about bugs on Zatar wetland (right, like we ever play it), and then the missile was ****ed.



                  stop living in your self-made bubble. I have watched your video, and frankly, it was worthless. You shot a noob for 3 seconds from behind and he went down. WOW. You do realize that you get a red indicator if you are getting shot at (I am amazed that he hasn't manuvered at that moment). That doesn;t make you the supreme pilot that you make yourself to be. Skillwise, I have played a couple of games where I scored more than you ON FOOT (while you were in a helicopter).

                  I am sorry, I just don't see how you get overhyped into this supreme pilot AFTER seeing you fly. i don't buy it, period. I play in the same server that you typically play, mind you.

                  Let me tell you, at the moment I see that red indicator, I will begin to manuver and you will be outmanuvered. I do sincerely believe that whoever has been shot down in J10 is a complete noob. As soon as the J10 starts manuvering against you, your only option is to fly to the stratosphere and reposition yourself again. This does not work against a pilot who will repair his J10 in the mean time.
                  Jesus Christ, youre a hopeless case of egocrap.

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