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  • datakillx99

    #1

    Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

    Hey, I finally bought the Asus 6600GT and I must say it's great. The only problem is when I run bf2, it still feels VERY choppy and laggy even on 1024x768 85 hertz with all low settings. These are my system specs:

    Dell Dimension 4550, everything default except for video card and memory

    1 Gig RAM
    Asus 6600GT 128 MB
    Intel Pent 4 2.4 ghz
    250w Power Supply

    I HAVE searched the forums for problems with the 6600GT and tweaks. I've tried deleting the cache file, disabling the intro movies, defragging, permanently removing deleted files (as in, after deleting them from Recycle Bin), closing all background tasks, disabling all programs on startup, compacting/cleaning the registry, other registry speed tweaks, and cleaning all the adware/viruses off of my computer. (And yes, I have vert sync off and I have my video card driver updated)

    Why is BF2 running so slow for me? I can run CS:S on all high with HDR and at 1024x768. I know my power supply is pretty low to handle the 6600gt so I need to upgrade sooner or later. Will this upgrade help reach the full potential of my 6600gt so I can run on medium settings?

    Also, since I have a Dell, the mobo only can connect with certain PSUs. I was suggested this one: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produc...php?show=S41D2
    awhile ago, however, if i dont have to spend $120 on a power supply, thatd be great. Can you recommend any power supplies that would fit and work with my Dimension 4550?

    Edit: Just wanted to add that in CS I get around 60 FPS on those settings I mentioned and in BF2, I dont know the number, however it feels like I get 15-20 T_T
  • TokenBrit

    #2
    Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

    Welcome to the world of BF2, it runs like a dog.
    I suspect your CPU might be a bottleneck, and theres not much you can do about that.

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    • datakillx99

      #3
      Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

      If it helps you to help me with the power supply, everytime I boot up, Nvidia gives me a warning that my power supply is too low to support the 6600gt and that it is setting the gpu configuration to low performance. So, could this be the reason why, besides the possible cpu bottlenecking, that I'm having lag?

      Btw, is there any way to help prevent so much cpu bottlenecking? Overclocking or something?

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      • TokenBrit

        #4
        Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

        Originally posted by datakillx99
        If it helps you to help me with the power supply, everytime I boot up, Nvidia gives me a warning that my power supply is too low to support the 6600gt and that it is setting the gpu configuration to low performance. So, could this be the reason why, besides the possible cpu bottlenecking, that I'm having lag?

        Btw, is there any way to help prevent so much cpu bottlenecking? Overclocking or something?
        You should have probably mentioned that before =P. That would most likely be the problem. To confirm it you should check your graphics cards clock speed against what the specification says it should be. It is most likely your card is underclocking itself due to lack of power. If that is the case your only option really is to buy a PSU or rethink your gprahics options.

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        • datakillx99

          #5
          Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

          I was just looking at my GPU specs and etc on PCWizard and under GPU configuration it says "ForceWare Version : 6.14.10.8421" Why does it say this is the version? I DLed and installed this one:

          ForceWare Release 80
          Version: 84.21
          Release Date: March 17, 2006

          when I got the card. Is my card not recognizing the new drivers? Or what?

          Edit: I think I see. Is the 8421 in the forceware version referring to the 84.21 in the ForceWare Release 80?

          Btw, how would I check to see my gpus clock speed?

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          • TokenBrit

            #6
            Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

            I haven't owned an Nvidia card in a while but if you download a program called "Coolbits" (use google) I believe it will tell you your current clock speeds. Be aware that the card probably would run at different speeds anyway based on whether it is doing 2d or 3d applications. You may have to "trick" it into going into 3d mode to see what clock speeds it is actually running. You might do this by running a game in windowed mode to keep an eye on it, or maybe coolbits even will keep a record of clocks for you. I am not sure because I have never used it, but I think that is what I would try in your place.

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            • i made you

              #7
              Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

              Originally posted by datakillx99
              Also, since I have a Dell, the mobo only can connect with certain PSUs. I was suggested this one: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produc...php?show=S41D2
              What a ****in ripoff. You can get a Powerstream 520W for that price. You shouldn't have to spend over $60 for a good 400W. If you have to, buy a psu and mod your old connectors to the new one. Oh yeah, don't ever buy a dell again.

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              • datakillx99

                #8
                Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

                Oh trust me, I wont! I hate it and I wasnt the one that bought it. We bought it like 5 years ago when i was too young to know much about computers.

                I plan to buy a $2000 gaming computer in like 2-3 years so im trying to make this one last. Any good places you suggest buying from? I can probably build one myself but I find it easier to just customize it on a website. So far I've looked into ibuypower and cyberpowerinc. If i really wanted to go cheap and build, I will probably buy from newegg. Any suggestions?

                Also, does anyone know a good amount on the proprietary Dell psu connections? I know that it uses a 20 plug (or whatever, I forgot the term :hmm: ) connector to the mobo. I dont know much about the IDE connections to harddrives and etc. Oh and my 6600gt doesn't need a psu connection just so you know.

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                • TokenBrit

                  #9
                  Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

                  Originally posted by datakillx99
                  Oh and my 6600gt doesn't need a psu connection just so you know.
                  Are you sure, I was under the impression all AGP 6600gt needed a 4 pin hard drive power supply.

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                  • datakillx99

                    #10
                    Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

                    Nope, it doesnt need any connection. I installed it this week and I didnt plug anything into it. I just popped it in and I was done.

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                    • TokenBrit

                      #11
                      Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings


                      Is this the one?
                      It needs a 4 pin power hard drive power connector, its the black thing at the top between the capacitors.

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                      • datakillx99

                        #12
                        Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

                        Yea thats the one but I dont remember seeing a place to plug a connector in :o How would plugging the 4 pin cord into the gpu help? Would this increase the performance at all by directly supplying power? Plus, I dont know whether i have a 4 pin cord to attach to it I'll look at the PSU that im pretty much forced into buying that i mentioned earlier and see if it has the 4 pin connector.

                        Edit: I couldnt find whether it had a 4 pin connector or not. If anyone can give me help on this, itd be greatly appreciated.

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                        • TokenBrit

                          #13
                          Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

                          Just open your case and look at it. I am certain it needs an additional power lead. It is not a case of a perfomance boost so much as it being NECESSARY to plug that cable in. Frankly I am amazed that it is working at all. If your PSU does not have a spare lead it is possible to find a splitter cable that will split power from whatever cable you do have. If you are unsure it should be the exact same connector that plugs into any IDE hard drive or optical drive. It has four pins.
                          I believe that this is what you are looking for if you do not have a spare connector:
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                          • datakillx99

                            #14
                            Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

                            I have a pretty old CD-RW drive that I never use due to having an MP3 player now. Should i just unplug the 4 plug connector cable from that and put it on the video card?

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                            • TokenBrit

                              #15
                              Re: Lag/Choppiness on Low Settings

                              Bear with me as I try to explain this. Your psu will have more than one 4 pin molex cable. It will probably have 2 cables from the PSU, which may then get split up to power the components on your PC. An important thing to remember is to keep your GFX on a different overall cable to any optical drive, if you can help it. This is because an optical will require varying amounts of power at dfferent times.
                              So in conclusion you can unplug your CDRW and use that cable if you like, but be aware of what else is being powered from it.

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