are these new hacks ????

[imported_TheDragon]

not looking to start another flame war
but has anyone else been seeing this junk???

# 1. peeps spawning anywhere?
not on a squad leader
not near a flag
but on a white flag or enemy flag?
right after a scan or right in the middle of a UAV scan
been seeing this for weeks
so has 10 of our clan mates
once or twice - ok - another EA timing issue
but many many many times????? hmmmmm . . .
one real exampe - start of Mashtuur
I was US
raced from South Gas Station to Power Plant
while standing right by the flag
BAMMMMM - MEC appears right in front of me

#2. and this one is tougher
we all KNOW the AA are AFU
but we have a few folks in clan with many hundred hours of jet time
(yes -with thousand of AA kills)
so we know what errant missles look like
in a game - with proper shooting parameters
will kill anyone
then certain pilots arrive
without special flying skills - and all missles suddenly go stupid????
only versus that certain pilot?
they do not even jink - like they know they cannot get hit
then we check their stats - and they have 30 hours?????
then they crash or we use guns
then next guy comes in jet and we rip the new guy
then "shady guy" comes back in jet' and we cannot hit them?????
this has been happening now for past month or so
happens in many games in many maps

anyone else seeing this????

[=IMO=THJones]

Re: are these new hacks ????

ya know i have had trouble hitting a couple guys with missles i just assumed the server was lagged, the spawning thing i havent seen that i can say for sure but there was once a time i was suspicious about an enemy spawn on our freindly spawn point again i chalked it up to server glitch...

[Rez_K'awil]

Re: are these new hacks ????

I have not seen this myself... maybe try some battlerecorder, and invite some people you suspect are "too good"? (and of course don't tell them about the recorder )

[DosX]

Re: are these new hacks ????

I believe in a spawn hack or bug.

I was in Wake one time, and was taking a flag. It was neutral and I saw an enemy running towards me, so I took him out. I happened to notice his name, becuase it was a little unusual (can't recall it now). It's important to note that when the flag went neutral my Commander put up the UAV on top of me. There were NO enemy in the UAV radius.

While my (US) flag was raising, I suddenly saw/heard a red dot on UAV. I turned and shot and it was the SAME GUY! I even hit the ~ and checked back to make sure.... it was him.

There's two things that got me. How did he spawn at a neutral->US flag and how did he spawn in about 5 seconds?

I was on his team the next round and got in his squad and asked. He just said it must have been a glitch, and wouldn't say anything else about it.

[flanker-f]

Re: are these new hacks ????

There migh be a spawn exploit or a hack out there.

One example: I was Navy seal in Iron Gator 64. At start of a round I spawned at Mess Hall to capture the Engine Room flag and when I got there there was a MEC on the flag. And the flag was already captured by him. Map load took about 45 seconds to me (I think I was second to spawn) and even if he had loaded the map in 1 second there's no way to get there and cap the flag before me.

And that's not the only strange thing that has happened to me.

[WarGimp]

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Next time you see #2 happening, check to see if it's a bomber.
The seat switch thing works in bombs just like attack choppers. Switch the the second position and suddenly missiles can't track you.

It's a hole that needs plugging.

[MisterBubbles]

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Pssh shut up WarGimp, if you have enough skills to guide a TV missile alone then you should be INVISIBLE!!

[[2bit]Modmaven]

Re: are these new hacks ????

Next time you see #2 happening, check to see if it's a bomber.
The seat switch thing works in bombs just like attack choppers. Switch the the second position and suddenly missiles can't track you.

It's a hole that needs plugging.

Exactly what I was thinking...the engine goes dead if you are in the secondary seat. No lock....

[WarGimp]

Re: are these new hacks ????

Exactly what I was thinking...the engine goes dead if you are in the secondary seat. No lock....

Doesn't have anything to do with the engine going dead. It's an oversight in the mechanics. It's a semantic difference, but one that should be understood.

It's a flaw, not a feature.

[Auto-ER-]

Re: are these new hacks ????

Server dictates respawn time, not client. So8und smore like a case of not seeing the squad leader. and misjudging time.

[Kronos]

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On #1, was seeing enemy spawn at our first base 10-15s into the round (and yes they were enemy, shooting team and getting kills, no TK for killing them (so not tag bug) ).

[imported_TheDragon]

Re: are these new hacks ????

Next time you see #2 happening, check to see if it's a bomber.
The seat switch thing works in bombs just like attack choppers. Switch the the second position and suddenly missiles can't track you.

It's a hole that needs plugging.

good point - will check this more often
but it has happened also chasing F18 with J10 in Fushe Pass

hmmm
reminds me of another possible hack????
too often - certain pilots can out turn a J10 while flying a bomber?????
yes - I know about AB and Rudder
and maybe, just when all variables are right - you can get a "sweet" turn
but when we (fast fighers) out turn all bombers 99% of the time
then some 1 guy shows up and turns like a banshee - well - makes you wonder where he bought his joystick = mxsecurity accessories??? :thatsbad:

[MisterBubbles]

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Ok.. This is not a hack, it is an exploit.. It's pretty bad, you can spawn with a squad from the other team. :shock:

[trousermouse]

Re: are these new hacks ????

I believe in a spawn hack or bug.

I was in Wake one time, and was taking a flag. It was neutral and I saw an enemy running towards me, so I took him out. I happened to notice his name, becuase it was a little unusual (can't recall it now). It's important to note that when the flag went neutral my Commander put up the UAV on top of me. There were NO enemy in the UAV radius.

While my (US) flag was raising, I suddenly saw/heard a red dot on UAV. I turned and shot and it was the SAME GUY! I even hit the ~ and checked back to make sure.... it was him.

There's two things that got me. How did he spawn at a neutral->US flag and how did he spawn in about 5 seconds?

I was on his team the next round and got in his squad and asked. He just said it must have been a glitch, and wouldn't say anything else about it.

That's a little suspect if its the same guy you killed less than 10 seconds ago... then agin each server can set the respawn time to whatever you want. I think the default is 15 sec.


On Wake and Dalian Plant a lot of times if I'm on the American team I will create a squad called "Chute Jump" and take a Blackhawk up as high as I can and fly over the enemy flags and just hover. This way anyone in my squad can spawn in the Blackhawk and parachute down and immediately take the flags. Works really well and most of the time people are wondering where we are all coming from.

[smythBSD]

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#1 might be a bug similar to this one I found where my team captured the gatehouse point on 64 player Karkand, it showed the flag as our team in the game, but on the radar map it showed up as the enemy's flag and still allowed them to respawn at that point.