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  • dBs

    #1

    Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

    I was watching a demo of myself playing the other day and I noticed something: when you crouch you are lower than you are when you crouch-walk (moving while crouched). Now this may not sound all that significant to most but I break games down so I can play them as effectively and efficiently as possible. Has anyone else noticed a difference in seeing your opponant between these two ways? Do the hitboxes move with the visual or do they not?

    This is importent because in CS:S for example (havent really played but I know the properties of the game) you can crouch behind a box and what you see is the box in front of you. In reality though you see from your characters neck so while you see the box, your opponant can see you clearly. This same could be true with BF2 and if the hitboxes match the figure you can still be shot. I know Ive knifed my fair share of people in the foot when theyre legs are sticking out of the wall. Anyone noticed this besides me? How accurate are the hit boxes to the figure?
  • Plugscan

    #2
    Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

    Well all i have noticed is that when u are too cloes to a wall body parts stick out and sometimes can get killed becuase of those stuck out body parts.

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    • dBs

      #3
      Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

      Originally posted by Plugscan
      Well all i have noticed is that when u are too cloes to a wall body parts stick out and sometimes can get killed becuase of those stuck out body parts.
      Yea, I know about that. Thats why I always stay an adequate distance from any wall if Im trying to hide my presence. I dont have to do it often since usually Id rather see and face my oponant than give him the advantage of surprise. Far easier that way =D

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      • imported_Wreck

        #4
        Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

        It's well know in BF that your POV is from your chest. Meaning if from your view your head is just at the top of a wall then it's actually sticking up above it. I've shot over objects before with my AT rocket thinking I had clearance and actually killed myself. It's clearly ghey.

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        • Sir. Shpox

          #5
          Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

          Originally posted by Wreck
          It's well know in BF that your POV is from your chest. Meaning if from your view your head is just at the top of a wall then it's actually sticking up above it. I've shot over objects before with my AT rocket thinking I had clearance and actually killed myself. It's clearly ghey.
          Same with me, the rocket will act is if it going to the right place, then suddenly it will hit the wall.

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          • tlniec

            #6
            Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

            I've had grenades bounce back at me for the same reason. And it's very embarrassing to kill yourself that way.

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            • aLLyBOOM
              Member
              • Jul 2005
              • 687

              #7
              Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

              Originally posted by Plugscan
              Well all i have noticed is that when u are too cloes to a wall body parts stick out and sometimes can get killed becuase of those stuck out body parts.
              I love knifing people through walls, especially if they have surrounded themselves by claymores and think they are safe lol...

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              • Papi4baby
                Member
                • Aug 2005
                • 1189

                #8
                Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

                Originally posted by aLLyBOOM
                I love knifing people through walls, especially if they have surrounded themselves by claymores and think they are safe lol...
                :laugh: yeah those are the best ones, i love to hear then call me a hacker too :laugh:

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                • dBs

                  #9
                  Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

                  Originally posted by Wreck
                  It's well know in BF that your POV is from your chest. Meaning if from your view your head is just at the top of a wall then it's actually sticking up above it. I've shot over objects before with my AT rocket thinking I had clearance and actually killed myself. It's clearly ghey.
                  Well the reason for that is your technically shooting from your "belly button" area. Didnt know where you saw was your chest though, interesting. Your even more exposed than I thought.

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                  • AlphaCueUp

                    #10
                    Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

                    so u mean to say, when an enemy turns around to catch my knife to the face, it doesnt look like its 'in his face' to him?

                    not cool

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                    • [Expletive Deleted]
                      The Penetrator
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 2855

                      #11
                      Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

                      If you "see" from your virtual chest, how does the camera move when you get in the prone? Because if it didn't, you'd be looking straight at the ground...

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                      • Revoluti0n
                        Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 3032

                        #12
                        Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

                        Originally posted by tlniec
                        I've had grenades bounce back at me for the same reason. And it's very embarrassing to kill yourself that way.
                        I love it when you throw a grenade to a roof top, it bounces back and your entire squad happens to be spawning on at a flag you happen to be trying to defend...

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                        • Raiden47

                          #13
                          Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

                          Originally posted by tlniec
                          I've had grenades bounce back at me for the same reason. And it's very embarrassing to kill yourself that way.
                          Hm. You want embarassing? I came in low in a JSF (F-35b) to try and kill a guy in a boat with my jet's engine (I've done it before). The guy put the front gun up, and from the External view i cleared it, yet i still blew up, and he lived!

                          Hitboxes in BF2 are flawed in many ways.. especially with jets, but with the view from the neck in CSS, I think it is the eact same thing with BF2.

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                          • imported_Wreck

                            #14
                            Re: Crouch vs. Crouch-walking

                            Originally posted by jimtool655321
                            If you "see" from your virtual chest, how does the camera move when you get in the prone? Because if it didn't, you'd be looking straight at the ground...
                            It sees straight up from your chest. Thats why when you try to conceal yourself behind a bush your head and gun are sticking out even if to you it looks like there is a bush in front of you.

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