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  • enfo

    #1

    New system

    I was just wondering and worrying about my new system that i'll be getting, i have heard that the AMD dual cores dont perform as good as single cores in gaming, and thats what i want it to excel at.
    its a :
    AMD64 Athlon X2 4400+ DUAL CORE
    Socket 939
    2 gig RAM
    7800 GTX
    250 + 180 SATA HD's

    i just want to know how well that will perform, or if i should buy a single core
  • <DV8>mrbucket
    Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 753

    #2
    Re: New system

    That will run great, and good job future proofing. Are those Sata drive the 8mb cache or 16mb cache? If you can get the 16mb cache they are realistically as fast as the raptors as far as the interface.

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    • sackynut

      #3
      Re: New system

      thats a perfect computer! have fun!

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      • whofriggincares

        #4
        Re: New system

        What kind of RAM did you get? If you happened to get DDR500, you might be able to get up to 2.7GHz or higher.

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        • Berrern
          Member
          • Jul 2005
          • 585

          #5
          Re: New system

          Dual cores aren't as fast as single cores in todays games, but that's in the process of changing. More and more games will come out with dual CPU support.

          If you're running a lot of background processes/programs and such while gaming, you will definitely benefit from having a dual core cpu.

          All in all, go for the dual core, your 4400 will be more than capable of handling BF2 very well.

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          • FLIPINOM4D

            #6
            Re: New system

            perfect

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            • whofriggincares

              #7
              Re: New system

              That's bs Berren. A dual core against a single core of the same clock speed is about 1-2% difference. With me running 1GB on a faulty RAM, I scored better than you in 3DMark05 and that was only running at 2.4GHz. Wait until I get my RAM rma'ed and back up to 2.8GHz or even higher, then try saying dual core isn't that good.

              Bottom line, you'll love dual core and you have the right hardware to perform better than single core processors.

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              • Berrern
                Member
                • Jul 2005
                • 585

                #8
                Re: New system

                Bs? No way, just have a look around yourself for benchmarks in games between single and dual core AMDs. Do some research before coming here barking at me :)

                Here's a few graphs to get you started, that clearly shows that even a single-core 3800 outperforms a dual core 4200.




                Here's one for BF2 aswell:


                In the future this will likely turn, but as it stands with todays technology and games, a single core is faster.

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                • Berrern
                  Member
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 585

                  #9
                  Re: New system

                  Oh, and you've got GTX cards compared to my GT's, so I'm not too surprised you're getting a higher 3DMark score than me. However, this isn't related to the topic so if you want to discuss our 3DMark scores please use the sticky 3DMark thread :)

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                  • Eden

                    #10
                    Re: New system

                    not really, do those tests yourself with some programs running in the background you will see a difference.

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                    • Berrern
                      Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 585

                      #11
                      Re: New system

                      Originally posted by Eden
                      not really, do those tests yourself with some programs running in the background you will see a difference.
                      First of all, that's what I said in my initial post; with a lot of background stuff running, you're going to benefit from dual core CPUs.

                      Second, how can I test this myself? I only have one CPU, so I can't really compare to anything..

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                      • whofriggincares

                        #12
                        Re: New system

                        There's less than 5% difference in all of those. An everyday user will see a benefit from dualcore. Those tests were probably ran on a freshly installed Windows with absolutely no programs running and all non essential Windows processes turned off. Now let the everyday user run the same benchmarks like they normally run their computer, and you won't even see 1-2% difference. Benchmarks are full of crap and can't be used as a end-all be-all comparison. In a perfect setup inside a lab, yes the single core CPU will barely outperform the dualcore. Too bad no one here runs their computers like these people that benchmark different hardware components.

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                        • Jackass

                          #13
                          Re: New system

                          Originally posted by rymaples
                          That's bs Berren. A dual core against a single core of the same clock speed is about 1-2% difference. With me running 1GB on a faulty RAM, I scored better than you in 3DMark05 and that was only running at 2.4GHz. Wait until I get my RAM rma'ed and back up to 2.8GHz or even higher, then try saying dual core isn't that good.

                          Bottom line, you'll love dual core and you have the right hardware to perform better than single core processors.
                          Well my father can beat your father!

                          Jeez grow up man.. :hmm:

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