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  • BRUTALITEEEEEEEEE

    #1

    Intel CPU Question

    OK, I need some help and advice from my TotalBf2 crew. I’m looking at upgrading my CPU from a 2.8 to a 3.4. I am currently looking at 2 different models of the 3.4CPU,
    1. Intel P4 550J
    2. Intel P4 650 (64-bit capable)

    I don’t know which way to go. I am running on the 925 chipset with the 775 socket.
    I don’t know if I should just go with the 550 model for now because I intend on going over to AMD in a year or 2 (I have just spent so much money on the 2 gigs of RAM and stuff for my Intel board). Or go with the 650 because it has the 2mb L2 Cache. The Tom’s Hardware CPU chart showed only a few FPS’s difference between the 2 (4-7 max)

    I would REALLY appreciate any advice/recommendations.

    Thanks :)
  • NoSoup4You

    #2
    Re: Intel CPU Question

    Why upgrade at all then? I would just wait.

    I have the 550 in my machine and all I can say is "hot hot hot" same would go for the 64 bit version. Your best bet is just to wait and go AMD perhaps sooner then you had planned.

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    • BRUTALITEEEEEEEEE

      #3
      Re: Intel CPU Question

      sad but true I know,

      If anyone can maybe point me in the direction of a good mobo (SLI preferred) and 2 gigs or RAM for AMD

      Id most likely go for an AMD 4000 since the new x2's are really expensive.

      oh, and another thing is I just got a 7800GTX and I was hoping to at least open up the bottleneck on my CPU by poppin a 3.4 in there. They are both only $270

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      • rombaft

        #4
        Re: Intel CPU Question

        go for the 550 , it's cheaper and not a power consumer as the 650 , and it runs less hot then the 650 , but still hot .

        2Mb of cache means a lot of extra transistors in your chip, what means more power consumption what means more temperature.

        Also the extra cache won't give you much extra performance and in many cases it will even give you no extra performance

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        • BRUTALITEEEEEEEEE

          #5
          Re: Intel CPU Question

          Awsome!! Thanks, that was the one I was leaning towards since I really don't mind getting the 3.4 then going to AMD as I will build another PC with the stuff I take out for the AMD switch.

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          • Papi4baby
            Member
            • Aug 2005
            • 1189

            #6
            Re: Intel CPU Question

            Originally posted by rombaft
            go for the 550 , it's cheaper and not a power consumer as the 650 , and it runs less hot then the 650 , but still hot .

            2Mb of cache means a lot of extra transistors in your chip, what means more power consumption what means more temperature.

            Also the extra cache won't give you much extra performance and in many cases it will even give you no extra performance
            actually rombaft the 650 is more efficient than the 550, since it has some sort intel step that it lowers it's core speed to 2.8 when iddle, so less energy and also less power, please do a bit more reading, i had a 540 and now a 640, i didn't really notice any difference in performance, but the CPU now runs a hell of alot cooler, i use to hit like 54C playing Need for Speed underground, with the new one i only hit like 47, im not mentioning BF2 because by the time i had it, i had already gotten the 640.
            But if you are going to gaming go AMD, good luck with what ever you choose.

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            • neo265

              #7
              Re: Intel CPU Question

              What about the new "Cedar Mill" and "Prestler" core P4's they will be out shortly build using 65NM tech and they run miles cooler. I believe it can happily OC to 4.5Ghz too.

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              • Blak_Phoenix

                #8
                Re: Intel CPU Question

                Just go AMD if you want to play games... simplae.. and if i were you BRUTALITEEEEEEEEEEEE i would wait and get an AMD sooner, they are alot better, alot cooler and you can OC them more.

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                • Vw-Merv-CL

                  #9
                  Re: Intel CPU Question

                  wait amd is far far far better than intel! they suck at games, check out benchmarks for both makes

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                  • BRUTALITEEEEEEEEE

                    #10
                    Re: Intel CPU Question

                    Really appreciate the feedback guys! I am going to just go with AMD. The only thing that sucks is I have this brand new mobo, 2 gigs DDR2 RAM, the processor and all that which I spent money on and now it s all useless

                    I need some opinions on a mobo though. A good SLI one as I will be recieving my 7800GTX today and plan on doing SLI at some point in time. I will go with an AMD 64 4000 with 2 gigs or Corsair XMS RAM....sound good?

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                    • Varsol

                      #11
                      Re: Intel CPU Question

                      If you've already got all that, I'm sure going intel wouldn't be a horrable performance killer. Hell, I'm not convinced you really need anything more at all. I fell my 3.0C is all I need, for the next year at least.

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                      • Berrern
                        Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 585

                        #12
                        Re: Intel CPU Question

                        Originally posted by BRUTALITEEEEEEEEEEEE
                        The only thing that sucks is I have this brand new mobo, 2 gigs DDR2 RAM, the processor and all that which I spent money on and now it s all useless
                        Hehe, at least you're not alone! I upgraded from an old 2800+ Barton CPU, to an AMD64 3000+, to an AMD64 3200+, all in the same week! And now, about three weeks later, I'm upgrading to the FX-57.
                        If you sell your stuff through the right channels, you should be able to get at least 80% of the money you paid for it, back :)

                        As for your motherboard query, I can really recommend the DFI nF4 SLI-DR motherboard. Never had a single crash with this baby!
                        You have more overclocking options than you've ever dreamed of, and a lot of extra/special functions! If you can afford it, go for it :)

                        And, of course, Corsair XMS is awesome.. But if you're thinking of overclocking, you might want to go with the Corsair 2x 1GB 3500LL, as it guarantees a 437MHz speed with timings of 2-3-2-6.

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                        • Vw-Merv-CL

                          #13
                          Re: Intel CPU Question

                          Originally posted by BRUTALITEEEEEEEEEEEE
                          Really appreciate the feedback guys! I am going to just go with AMD. The only thing that sucks is I have this brand new mobo, 2 gigs DDR2 RAM, the processor and all that which I spent money on and now it s all useless

                          I need some opinions on a mobo though. A good SLI one as I will be recieving my 7800GTX today and plan on doing SLI at some point in time. I will go with an AMD 64 4000 with 2 gigs or Corsair XMS RAM....sound good?
                          lol me too, i upgraded a £140 SLI mobo and £200 on 2gb of DDR2 ram before i went AMD which cost me further money for mobo and 2 gb ddr400, just for comparisons
                          my previous rig: P4 3.6HT, GA-8N SLI Royal, 2 x 7800SLI, 2GB DDR 667 3dmark05 of 8300

                          my current rig as in sig about 12000 3dmark thats how much better the AMD is

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                          • Papi4baby
                            Member
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 1189

                            #14
                            Re: Intel CPU Question

                            Originally posted by Vw-Merv-CL
                            wait amd is far far far better than intel! they suck at games, check out benchmarks for both makes
                            ok fan boy, yes is true AMD is better for gaming, but the gap is not that much, and to say intel sucks, is like saying apple sucks compare to regular PC. Please stop being such a fan boy. Oh and by the way my next systems is going to be AMD, so no im not and intel fan boy.

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                            • BRUTALITEEEEEEEEE

                              #15
                              Re: Intel CPU Question

                              HAHAHAHA now I don't feel so bad and also I just bought the 2 gigs from newegg so I can return them and that money will go into the ram for the new mobo. Ive been looking at Asus Mobos right now but I will continue to do my research. Since I am changing, will my Hard drives and all that be compatible (im sure they will "SATA")?

                              I've been lookin at the 4000 and it is showing some impressive marks. I don't have the money for one of the FX models but the 4000 is right there.

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