why buy dual core?

[imported_bigpappa]

Re: why buy dual core?

my 3500 is going to pwn on BF2

[toxik]

Re: why buy dual core?

Nope i dont work for amd or nvidia i heard it from the best game developer himself in a 2 hour speech about the future of games. Mr John Carmack, guy who made quake games and doom3 etc. He knows more than me and you :p so id believe him over anyone else as hes the one making the real next gen games.

As for the multithreaded consoles he talked about that to he said they are incredibly hard for game coders and thus wont have any big performance boost and the guy who made hl2 is also annoyed by the fact they have chosen to go multicore.

Well I watched the carmack quakecon speech aswell and i don't recall him saying anything about dual core performance. Especially X2. It is totally irrelevant because he doesn't know what's gonna be the performance diference when drivers and games start using 2 cores. Plus you think Carmack thinks that the diference in FPS between a FX-57 and a 4800 is big?

Gabe Newell was talking about porting single core games to multithreading systems. For HL2 they would have to recode everything and it would obviously cost too much. He was talking about PS3 specifically, not X2s or 360. He said that since PS3 is 8 cores (or somethin like that) coding for that game would mean you won't be able to port it to any other system. He wasn't saying that it's pointless or it's hard, it's just bad for business. If you're making a PS3 game, you're either gonna spend a lot of time and money to port it to another system or you're just helping Sony and making it a PS3 exclusive.

Anyways, I still believe that X2s are a good investment.

[openheimer]

Re: why buy dual core?

I bought it to try it!! So if you are serious about your technology you will always have the ambition to push at the edges. My first home computer was courtesy of Mr Clive Sinclair, 64k memory. My Samsung i700 phone has more processing power than the biggest super computers in the 70s.

I have several processors on order for new builds if i don't like the X2, I can move the X2 on.


If you want a powerful processor that handles multiple tasks efficently buy a dual core. If you want to Game Buy a dual core... If you want to use a single core, go ahead, makes no real difference to me...

[Kraven]

Re: why buy dual core?

Well I watched the carmack quakecon speech aswell and i don't recall him saying anything about dual core performance. Especially X2. It is totally irrelevant because he doesn't know what's gonna be the performance diference when drivers and games start using 2 cores. Plus you think Carmack thinks that the diference in FPS between a FX-57 and a 4800 is big?

Watch it again. He didnt say anything specific about brands e.g. x2 he just said dual core wont have a big performance boost for quite a while to come. Game developers are only just learning how to work with dual core and he said its a real pain to code for.

Games typically have to perform tasks in a particular order, for example (extremely simplified): get inputs, move player, move AI players, move other objects, check for collisions, update parameters, display the next frame, loop. And this is incredibly hard to code 2 cores to do this

Citing the use of multiple cores in the consoles and in the PC, Carmack thought that it make the development more complex than necessary for the current state of hardware. I.E the x2 cores on the market so therefore its in the future with new dual core cpu's and when coders have really found a way for it to work and increase performance.

Bottom line is single core is king for gaming, Dual-core is king for running high end multiple tasks and is aimed at the business market

im off to bed 2am here in little old england

[kfj]

Re: why buy dual core?

like i said before, people buying dual core arent using it for gaming, even if you goto amds website it says something about the fx seires is for gaming

[Akuma]

Re: why buy dual core?

Im going sing core for now. There realy no need to to get dual core just yet.
Most of it is just hype (For now). Im fairly confedent a single core processore will drag you just fine for the next couple of years.
Mind you bye the time games realy intagrade to the dual core seen, odds
are you wont even want to keep the current arcatecture in your mobos.
They most probably will have somthing faster and better by that time.

Question.

Amd 64......Multiplier locked?
Amd 64-FX ..Multipier Unlocked?
Is this correct??

[ud!t]

Re: why buy dual core?

yup dual cores are useless for gaming, only uses 1 CPU. Btw.. people with rigs like:

2 x 7800GTX
4 gigs RAM
Dual Core 4800+
4 x 250 gigs hard drive RAID config
all watercooled

If you have two monitors you can actually do two things at once. You can play bf2 twice on the same computer, or play bf2 while at the same time watching a movie on the other monitor