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  • panic951

    #1

    Heatsink Question?

    The stock heatsink that came with my AMD athlon 64+ has the little thermal material on the bottom the grey pad. Should I still use thermal grease?
  • NoSoup4You

    #2
    No. The thermal paste would prevent the grease patch from effectively bonding to the CPU and would actually create a heat block.

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    • GlobalFear

      #3
      Using a decent thermal grease would offer a marginal decrease in temps.
      If you were running stock I wouldn't worry though.

      If you have the paste on hand then use it. Just make sure that you remove the thermal pad with a bit of rubbing alcohol or something similar.

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      • NoSoup4You

        #4
        Originally posted by GlobalFear
        Using a decent thermal grease would offer a marginal decrease in temps.
        If you were running stock I wouldn't worry though.

        If you have the paste on hand then use it. Just make sure that you remove the thermal pad with a bit of rubbing alcohol or something similar.

        The problem with this is the paste will still be in the tiny microscopic holes in the heatsink preventing a really good quality connection. Which why many people don't but should use Artic Cleaning Solution's 2 step heatsink cleaner. It actually does make a difference. I used to clean with regular rubbing alcohol, but since I switched to this, I have noticed a better bond with Artic Silver 5 on my Freezer7 CPU cooler.

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        • panic951

          #5
          Thanks guys I got my new system up Athlon 64 3000.Gigabyte 6800gt,2gb ram. And im running BF2 with everything all the way up yipee.

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          • GlobalFear

            #6
            Originally posted by KingOfKhaos
            The problem with this is the paste will still be in the tiny microscopic holes in the heatsink preventing a really good quality connection. Which why many people don't but should use Artic Cleaning Solution's 2 step heatsink cleaner. It actually does make a difference. I used to clean with regular rubbing alcohol, but since I switched to this, I have noticed a better bond with Artic Silver 5 on my Freezer7 CPU cooler.
            From what I have seen Arctic Clean makes removing thermal pads easier and quicker but doesn't really offer any other advantages.
            If you have some good reviews or something like that I would be more than interested.

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            • NoSoup4You

              #7
              Let me dig them up, there were a few magazines and websites that reviewed it and said it worked terrific.

              The page you requested could not be found. Browse our buying guides and reviews from the homepage or category hubs.

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              • BF2_Joe

                #8
                Originally posted by KingOfKhaos
                No. The thermal paste would prevent the grease patch from effectively bonding to the CPU and would actually create a heat block.
                :laugh: thats funny!


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