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  • AvalancheDiode
    Need more squeezing
    • Jan 2007
    • 988

    #1

    Fastest CPU of our time



    Boss told me to clear out some very old computers at work. When I opened it up, I found things that I can't believe what I am seeing. 486DX, and not even DX2. The motherboards are full of ISA bus slots, 30-pin RAMs and L2 cache. Yes! L2 cache on the motherboard! You can actually add L2 cache at that time! So, I took those CPUs out and wonder how they'd sell these days. Back when I was in high school, (boy that's long time ago), I wanted one of these but couldn't afford to. Now I have two for free.

    Just in case what you might be interested in how the old computers of AT boxes are connected. You need a IDE/Floppy controller card. If you're lucky, there might be RS-232 and parallel controller on board, but usually you need additional COM/Parallel card. You need extra sound card and, of course, a display card. Early Matsu****a CD-ROMs require proprietary controller cards, later ones use IDE, but you lose fourth hard drive due to limitation on IDE devices. Ever wonder why some people are running SCSI back then?

    Oh, BTW, there is another separate socket on the motherboard with 4167 printed in the center. That's for numerical processing unit. Some computers of the time still use 486SX which no FPU is in it.

    Believe it or not, those computer can run Tie Fighter very well. All you need is a 486DX 33MHz with 4MB Ram. Speaking of Tie Fighter, that's the game that Lucas Arts should be remaking, not nostalgic adventure games such as Monkey Island or some evil tentacle.

    The graphics cards of those old computers at my work are from Trident. Back in the day, people were talking about "2D acceleration" for real jobs. Nowadays, those monster 3D GPUs suck at 2D processing, and a lot of stuff is passed on the CPU instead. So, 2D performance on modern computers is actually suck compared to way older generation with dedicated 2D acceleration cards to run Windows 3.1. Way to go, NVIDIA, ATI, M$ and Intel. You big corporations suck!

    There was no sound system on those old computers at my lab. Back in the day, if you want to here some decent midi music while playing Tie Fighter, you need an extra Midi card, which were very expensive back then. Think $200 for "low-end" midi card. Those midi cards don't play FM waveform, so you still need a Soundblaster or Gravis Ultrasound for the job. I still have a Turtlebeach Maui, but somehow lost my GUS.

    Back in the days of 486 and early Pentium, there was such thing called "MPEG-II acceleration card," for people doing video recording, editing and replay. CPU power at the time wasn't able to handle MPEG-II. There was one of these cards at my work, but we threw that away last year.

    We still have a lot of old stuff, but these are not as excitingly old as these two. Funny thing is that they are so old, that people have forgotten them until we threw away relatively newer stuff first, which tells you how many old stuff is still there. There is still an analog plotter, wait, do you younger people know WHAT is an analog plotter?

    Just in case that Alex is still curious of what I was doing on holiday.
  • Namakan
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2893

    #2
    Re: Fastest CPU of our time

    That's hardcore.

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    • jesus
      Member
      • May 2007
      • 2413

      #3
      Re: Fastest CPU of our time

      i7 > those

      see ya

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      • imported_Will
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 1935

        #4
        Re: Fastest CPU of our time

        Originally posted by Tomeis
        i7 > those

        see ya
        QFT :awes2

        I <3 my i7 920

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        • Vreki
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 4226

          #5
          Re: Fastest CPU of our time

          Originally posted by AvalancheDiode
          So, 2D performance on modern computers is actually suck compared to way older generation with dedicated 2D acceleration cards to run Windows 3.1. Way to go, NVIDIA, ATI, M$ and Intel. You big corporations suck!
          I would be surprised if modern cards didn't have way better 2D acceleration too, but mentioning it would be like saying "wheels included" on a car.

          Originally posted by Tomeis
          i7 > those

          see ya
          Thats a rather pointless comment, of course current CPUs are faster than those from the previous millennium.

          My first PC was a 486DX40 with VESA local bus. What they forgot to tell me was that none of the expansion cards in it were using VESA.

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          • jesus
            Member
            • May 2007
            • 2413

            #6
            Re: Fastest CPU of our time

            Originally posted by Vreki
            I would be surprised if modern cards didn't have way better 2D acceleration too, but mentioning it would be like saying "wheels included" on a car.



            Thats a rather pointless comment, of course current CPUs are faster than those from the previous millennium.

            My first PC was a 486DX40 with VESA local bus. What they forgot to tell me was that none of the expansion cards in it were using VESA.
            he said "fastest CPU of our time" so I had to give him the correct equation

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            • Eagle101

              #7
              Re: Fastest CPU of our time

              First procs i had was a P3 :p anyways awesome thread Avalanche, nice read

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              • AvalancheDiode
                Need more squeezing
                • Jan 2007
                • 988

                #8
                Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                Originally posted by Eagle101
                First procs i had was a P3 :p anyways awesome thread Avalanche, nice read
                Glad that you like it.

                Originally posted by Vreki
                I would be surprised if modern cards didn't have way better 2D acceleration too, but mentioning it would be like saying "wheels included" on a car.
                I'm not sure about G45 or GMA4500, but, just turn off Windows Aero and drag windows around and scroll this page up and down fast. You'll get my point. It was more smoother under those S3 or Trident chips.

                Originally posted by Vreki
                My first PC was a 486DX40 with VESA local bus. What they forgot to tell me was that none of the expansion cards in it were using VESA.
                I rarely saw a VESA bus and probably saw only some cards for it, but I've seen a few EISA bus devices and heard of people who bought EISA bus for personal use. Those are devised during 386 and 486 age for increased bandwidth came with 32-bit processors. However, only people running specialized hardware, such as fast DAC/ADC cards, Wide-SCSI, professional video-capturing cards etc, require those bandwidth. Consumer computer add-on cards still used ISA and only ISA well into late 90s. Too bad that they no longer support ISA bus and hardware. I still have a NEC GPIB card sitting on my desk.

                Eventually, PCI killed them all, but did anyone ever have a computer with 64-bit PCI bus? Parallel was the way in the past to increase bandwidth and data rate. Some genius figured it out that multiple serial lines are actually faster. Man, that indeed surprised me.

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                • AlecJ32
                  Site Staff
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 502

                  #9
                  Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                  Originally posted by Tomeis
                  i7 > those

                  see ya
                  UltraSPARC T2 Plus > i7

                  ....Though not very useful for a home user.

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                  • jesus
                    Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2413

                    #10
                    Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                    Originally posted by AlecJ32
                    UltraSPARC T2 Plus > i7

                    ....Though not very useful for a home user.
                    most human brains > UltraSPARC T2 Plus

                    ....Though not very useful for playing games and surfing the internet.

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                    • AlecJ32
                      Site Staff
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 502

                      #11
                      Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                      Originally posted by Tomeis
                      most human brains > UltraSPARC T2 Plus

                      ....Though not very useful for playing games and surfing the internet.
                      QUICK, use your brain and compile and execute this code:

                      [PHP].MODEL Small
                      .STACK 100h
                      .DATA
                      msg db 'Hello, world!$'
                      .CODE
                      start:
                      mov ah, 09h
                      lea dx, msg
                      int 21h
                      mov ax,4C00h
                      int 21h
                      end start
                      [/PHP]

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                      • AvalancheDiode
                        Need more squeezing
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 988

                        #12
                        Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                        INT 21H? Wow, that's really hardcore. You must be a programmer since old DOS age.

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                        • =98=
                          Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 10299

                          #13
                          Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                          Heh, I can't programme for **** :p

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                          • jesus
                            Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 2413

                            #14
                            Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                            Originally posted by AlecJ32
                            QUICK, use your brain and compile and execute this code:

                            [PHP].MODEL Small
                            .STACK 100h
                            .DATA
                            msg db 'Hello, world!$'
                            .CODE
                            start:
                            mov ah, 09h
                            lea dx, msg
                            int 21h
                            mov ax,4C00h
                            int 21h
                            end start
                            [/PHP]
                            I CANT!!!!! (ohno)

                            QUICK, have the UltraSPARC T2 Plus make conscious decisions!!!!!!!

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                            • Death Merchant
                              Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1090

                              #15
                              Re: Fastest CPU of our time

                              Speaking of old hardware i just found some Radeon 7000's and Geforce MX graphics cards at work today not as old as the DX2's but still retro IMO :)

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