nVidia's turn?

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  • Scinto
    Retired TGN *****
    • Mar 2006
    • 5387

    #1

    nVidia's turn?

    http://www.techpowerup.com/64193/NVI...Red-Eyed_.html

    NVIDIA in a Rush for 55nm Parts, has Partners 'Red-Eyed'
    With the cost of manufacture for a standard G200 die reaching up to US $110, thanks to yields as low as 40 per cent, NVIDIA seems to be in a rush for a 55nm revamp of its current GPUs. While nothing revolutionary is on the cards, and with 55nm G92b already in the making, NVIDIA plans to revamp its G200 graphics processors to the 55nm fab process, increasing yields up to 50 per cent. At 55nm, the G200 die will be effectively reduced to 470 sq. mm, implies 120 dice on a 300mm wafer.

    The pace at which things are moving is having the partners red-eyed. NVIDIA's new Unilateral Minimum Advertised Price Policy (UMAP) has limited partners' playing field and minimizes competition between them. When NVIDIA at the same time decides to launch new cards based on existing cores, at lower prices, partners get upset over diminishing earnings. Add to that AMD's new RV770 chip is looking very tempting to some of these partners.
    AMD came from a rough patch to release some very promising cards and nice prices, now it looks like its nVidia's turn to be put under some pressure.
  • jake_
    Fitter, Happier.
    • Mar 2007
    • 4959

    #2
    Re: nVidia's turn?

    I hope they turn out well under pressure, and don't flop.

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    • Corkum
      Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 639

      #3
      Re: nVidia's turn?

      Props to AMD for this.

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      • Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=
        Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3101

        #4
        Re: nVidia's turn?

        Nvidia is just taking a p*ss they will be back.. Though i think my next GPU will be an AMD.

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        • Warhawk

          #5
          Re: nVidia's turn?

          nVidia is going to need some serious cards with some seriously low prices to keep up with amd.

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          • solofowaffles
            Member
            • May 2006
            • 4306

            #6
            Re: nVidia's turn?

            That's why you don't release a new card for a year or more.Good job ATI.

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            • Warhawk

              #7
              Re: nVidia's turn?

              Originally posted by [WS] Stephensolofo
              That's why you don't release a new card for a year or more.Good job ATI.
              What?

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              • jesus
                Member
                • May 2007
                • 2413

                #8
                Re: nVidia's turn?

                Originally posted by Warhawk View Post
                What?
                Well, the last real series ATI released was the 3850, 3870 and 3870X2 and now the 4850, 4870 and soon the 4870X2.

                Nvidia have released 8800GS, 9600GT, 9600GSO, 9800GTX, 9800GX2, 9800GTX+, GTX260 and GTX280.

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                • AllFoamNoBeer
                  Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4034

                  #9
                  Re: nVidia's turn?

                  The problem with Nvidia is that they produce far too many cards over a small period of time.

                  It is hard to keep with with their releases, furthermore their releases don't have massive differences between them. (For the current range of games).

                  ATi are slow, but they release solid cards for the price range (apart from the horrid 2XXX series).

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                  • Vreki
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 4226

                    #10
                    Re: nVidia's turn?

                    Originally posted by vika09 View Post
                    The problem with Nvidia is that they produce far too many cards over a small period of time.

                    It is hard to keep with with their releases, furthermore their releases don't have massive differences between them. (For the current range of games).
                    Yes, it is getting very hard for the casual buyer to have any idea how a given nVidia card compares to the rest of their cards.

                    n+1 series is better than n series, unless one is a (n+1)600 and the other is a n(800) of course
                    And then there is the whole GT-GS-GTX-GTFO issue on top of that

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                    • AllFoamNoBeer
                      Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4034

                      #11
                      Re: nVidia's turn?

                      Oh man, for a minute when I read your "n+1" comment, I thought you were attacking me with sarcasm.

                      Then I read on..

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                      • Kreepy Kitteh =^o.O^=
                        Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3101

                        #12
                        Re: nVidia's turn?

                        LOL Vreki. Im waiting for the 9900GTFO.. killer card to say the least.

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                        • Eagle101

                          #13
                          Re: nVidia's turn?

                          5niper i think you should have stayed with your previous 88 card rather than upgrading, as the new cards have just only came out.

                          Neways, ATi is doing a great job on the 48s imho, i am hoping to get a 4870X2.

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                          • Vreki
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 4226

                            #14
                            Re: nVidia's turn?

                            Anyway, wont nVidia be forced to drastically reduce the price on its current cards?
                            Usually I don't care if its an ATI or nVidia card I am using, but with nVidia supporting onboard PhysX they might be more interesting.

                            I know that PhysX hasn't been a success for Aegis, but with every new nVidia card supporting it things may be very different soon.

                            And since I have a relatively weak CPU, I would be interested in technology that prolongs its life by offloading some of the work to the GPU.

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                            • Kradath
                              Member
                              • May 2006
                              • 1370

                              #15
                              Re: nVidia's turn?

                              The problem with physx is, as far as I know, that they don't help your cpu, so you got nearly no framerate improvement. Mostly you got more particles with it but AMD is working together with Havok, if you ask me a much bigger name compared to physx.

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