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  • Dan2k3k4
    Member
    • Oct 2003
    • 1283

    #1

    Graphic card and other PC related questions...

    Ok I've a few questions, first these are the specs of the PC:

    From DxDiag:
    Code:
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    System Information
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    Time of this report: 6/20/2008, 11:27:40
           Machine name: HOME1
       Operating System: Windows Vistaâ„¢ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
               Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
           System Model: P5K SE
                   BIOS: BIOS Date: 07/19/07 11:46:27 Ver: 08.00.12
              Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E4500  @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.2GHz
                 Memory: 4094MB RAM
              Page File: 1756MB used, 6607MB available
            Windows Dir: C:\Windows
        DirectX Version: DirectX 10
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 64bit Unicode
    
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    Display Devices
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            Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT 
         Manufacturer: NVIDIA
            Chip type: GeForce 8600 GT
             DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
           Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1
       Display Memory: 2284 MB
     Dedicated Memory: 493 MB
        Shared Memory: 1791 MB
         Current Mode: 1600 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
              Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
          Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2umx.dll, nvwgf2um
       Driver Version: 7.15.0011.7516 (English)
          DDI Version: 10
    Driver Attributes: Final Retail
     Driver Date/Size: 5/3/2008 05:46:00, 8113664 bytes
    Now I want to know how how I would find out the graphics card memory? E.g. you can get cards like 8800GTS 512mb or 8800GTS 128mb etc. - Is it the Dedicated memory? Meaning my 8600 GT has 512mb? (Because 2gb seems huge and unreal for an 8600)

    How would I "revert" back to DX9.0c or "install" DX9.0c? I couldn't find a DX9.0c download on the microsoft directx list, only lots of SDKs and Redists - unless thats what I need?

    Can running two different cards via SLi work? e.g. I have an old 6800 Ultra 256mb or something which I'm sure supports Sli - so would I benefit running my current setup to add the old card in or leave it out?

    I read one of Alex98uk's post about 8600's needing to have there bios updated? How would I do that?

    On my index subscore in vista I get 4.8 for my Ram... but on my other PC which only has 2gb of RAM I get 5.2 for the subscore. So either I have slower clock speeds for the 4gb RAM on this PC or somethings wrong with them... how would I go about checking the speed and finding out if there is anything wrong?

    Should I install AGIEA PhysX, and if I do would I need to install each driver or just the latest version of it?

    Also, with my current PC setup, I'm running Vista 64 bit home premium version, should I install Vista Business - and if so should I stick with 64 bit or 32 bit with my current PC?

    (I guess these questions might help others too?)
  • =98=
    Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 10299

    #2
    Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

    Originally posted by Dan2k3k4
    Now I want to know how how I would find out the graphics card memory? E.g. you can get cards like 8800GTS 512mb or 8800GTS 128mb etc. - Is it the Dedicated memory? Meaning my 8600 GT has 512mb? (Because 2gb seems huge and unreal for an 8600)
    The amount of memory is the "dedicated memory". In this case it's near as damn it 512mb. The other number is the total memory including RAM the graphics card can borrow.

    Originally posted by Dan2k3k4
    How would I "revert" back to DX9.0c or "install" DX9.0c? I couldn't find a DX9.0c download on the microsoft directx list, only lots of SDKs and Redists - unless thats what I need?
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    You need that.

    Originally posted by Dan2k3k4
    Can running two different cards via SLi work? e.g. I have an old 6800 Ultra 256mb or something which I'm sure supports Sli - so would I benefit running my current setup to add the old card in or leave it out?
    SLI cards have to be exactly the same


    [QUOTE=Dan2k3k4;2081994]
    I read one of Alex98uk's post about 8600's needing to have there bios updated? How would I do that?[QUOTE=Dan2k3k4;2081994]

    That was just the 8800 gt's.

    Originally posted by Dan2k3k4
    On my index subscore in vista I get 4.8 for my Ram... but on my other PC which only has 2gb of RAM I get 5.2 for the subscore. So either I have slower clock speeds for the 4gb RAM on this PC or somethings wrong with them... how would I go about checking the speed and finding out if there is anything wrong?
    The speed can be found by downloading CPU-Z (google it). It will give a figure which you multiply by two to find the real speed (if it's DDR2 that is)

    Originally posted by Dan2k3k4
    Should I install AGIEA PhysX, and if I do would I need to install each driver or just the latest version of it?
    No, they're crap.

    Originally posted by Dan2k3k4
    Also, with my current PC setup, I'm running Vista 64 bit home premium version, should I install Vista Business - and if so should I stick with 64 bit or 32 bit with my current PC?
    Why even bother installing Vista Business. I have Business 64 and it's the same as premium without the media centre.

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    • Dan2k3k4
      Member
      • Oct 2003
      • 1283

      #3
      Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

      Cheers Alex :salute:

      About DX: (downloading now) but would I need to uninstall/revert back to dx9.0c or would I just need dx9.0c and dx10 installed? [Currently only have dx10 installed as far as I know]

      I figured if I installed Vista Business 32bit, I could easily transfer accounts/settings etc. from both PCs (as I can't do it with 64bit), and Vista Business has RDP though I probably won't use that ever

      Also: Since I noticed the overclock sig, whats a good percentage to overclock to? e.g. increase speeds by 10-20% (but make sure temp stays below red)? I used to have an AMD and could run the Overdrive tool which made it easy to overclock to a certain amount, also my other PC (x1950 pro 512mb) has features to overclock in the advanced tabs, but nVidia doesn't seem to have these features anywhere, so I guess I'll need a program, any recommendations?

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      • =98=
        Member
        • Oct 2006
        • 10299

        #4
        Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

        You should have both DX9 and DX10 installed unless you've removed either in purpose.

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        • Wizrdwarts
          Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 3754

          #5
          Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

          Download nTune from Nvidia. It adds overclocking options to the Nvidia CP.

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          • Stormy{CAN}
            Member
            • Apr 2007
            • 958

            #6
            Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

            Alex in case you missed it you linked him to a Dx download from 2204. The latest one is here,



            and yes it updates both DirectX 9 and DirectX 10.

            Download nTune from Nvidia.
            Wizrdwarts, have to say you are one of the very first I ahve ever seen recommend nTune. Most forums will tell people to use anything and everything but nTune. If you really think you need to overclock your card try RivaTuner instead,



            and instructions on how to use it,

            vaguetech.com is your first and best source for all of the information you’re looking for. From general topics to more of what you would expect to find here, vaguetech.com has it all. We hope you find what you are searching for!


            or if RivaTuner seems a little to much to handle as far as I know the Evga Precision works with all (or most at least) Nvidia cards,



            it is not as an in-depth tool as RivaTuner (read: more user friendly) and is written by the same person that wrote RivaTuner (Unwinder).

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            • Wizrdwarts
              Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 3754

              #7
              Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

              Well he was saying that Nvidia CP was lacking an overclocking, so I thought he wanted something from Nvidia.

              Go ahead an download RivaTuner. :)

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              • =98=
                Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 10299

                #8
                Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

                Ntune is horrible

                Rivatuner is the only sensible way to roll :)

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                • Wizrdwarts
                  Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 3754

                  #9
                  Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

                  While we're on the topic of overclocking utilities, how is ATI's Catalyst? I don't think OCing a 3650 would help much, but I'm just wondering.

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                  • =98=
                    Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 10299

                    #10
                    Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

                    Use Rivatuner to overclock it and ATI Tool to stress it.

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                    • Hellsent 2.0
                      Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 2137

                      #11
                      Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

                      CCC ( catalyst Control center) is actually very good at overclocking and checkin temps..although it doesnt stress it enough like ATI tool...

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                      • Wizrdwarts
                        Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3754

                        #12
                        Re: Graphic card and other PC related questions...

                        It can't control the fan though.

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