Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Yea, i know it says that.

All i am saying is that sensible overclocking is not really dangerous and can get out hidden performance. Computer builders should learn the art and practice it.

You seem to be discouraging it which is what i don't agree with.

We both seem to be on the same page here..

If you wish to OC thats fine do what you want but I don't recommend it.

If you break it cause of Overclocking then its your fault and those that commit fraud to claim its a defect thats where I'm putting my foot down as that being plain out wrong.

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Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Yea, i know it says that.

All i am saying is that sensible overclocking is not really dangerous and can get out hidden performance. Computer builders should learn the art and practice it.

You seem to be discouraging it which is what i don't agree with.

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

So... because it's not advertised you shouldn't do it?

OK... I'm going to pull this right from the manual that came with my new Intel Quad processor I got.


Extent of Limited Warranty

Further, this limited warranty does NOT cover:

#2. Damage to the Product due to external causes, including accident, problems with electrical power, abnormal electrical, mechanical or environmental conditions, usage not in accordance with product instructions, misuse, neglect, alteration, repair, improper installation, or improper testing.


Those parts that I highlighted all fall within the Overclocking catagory.

Here is more:

Limitations of Liability

Intels responsibility under this or any other warranty, implied or express, is limited to repair, replacement or refund, as set forth above. These remedies are the sole and exclusive remedies for any breach of warranty. To the maximum extent permittted by Law, Intel is not responsible for any direct,special, incidental, or consequential damages resulting from any breach of warranty under any other legal theory (Including, but not limited to, lost profite, downtime, goodwill, damage to or replacement of equipment and property, and any costs of recovering, reprogramming, or reproducing any program or data sotred in or used with a system containing the product).



I mean I don't know how else more to explain it or show it... its not in the book that says anything about "Its running at this but we say it will run at that".

Take it as you want.

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

In Soviet Russia Dummies books reads YOU!, lol look it up, its called Rusian Reversal. Yeah that would help but Alex already gave me his guide but thnx anyways.

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Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

So... because it's not advertised you shouldn't do it?

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

No, I was using these as an example; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...d=6&subid=1093

"Guaranteed to run at 3.20GHZ" - so if I buy one of them, and it breaks, dosent run @ 3.20 then I would expect money back/new one - but everyone knows C2D's are made to OC'd.

that would fall back on Overclockers.co.uk then cause they are the only ones I've ever seen advertise like that. You don't see Newegg doing that or Tiger direct... and they even prompt you with another page of warranty warning when you make a processor purchase.

Ok all this talk bout OC is getting me in the mood, i am all couraged up to do some minor OCing. Can anyone email, PM, me OC guides, like really good ones please. Is it possible to get vids of Youtube as well?

I am aiming to up my 2.66 to a full 3.0ghz.

Since it would appear you like the "____ For Dummies" Books... here ya go :)

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesTitle/PC-Modding-For-Dummies.productCd-0764575767.html

[[MyIS]Dan]

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Thats just it man.... your missing it. They don't say it will go up to lets say 3.06.

It only says up to 2.66, so if you push it beyond that your violating warranty and you've broken your chip. So therefore you can't expect a full money back or replacement. See what i'm saying?

No, I was using these as an example; http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...d=6&subid=1093

"Guaranteed to run at 3.20GHZ" - so if I buy one of them, and it breaks, dosent run @ 3.20 then I would expect money back/new one - but everyone knows C2D's are made to OC'd.

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Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Thats just it man.... your missing it. They don't say it will go up to lets say 3.06.

It only says up to 2.66, so if you push it beyond that your violating warranty and you've broken your chip. So therefore you can't expect a full money back or replacement. See what i'm saying?

Yes, we see.

There is theoretically, then there is reality. The latter seems a lot more useful and relevant.

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

No it's not if I buy one of them CPU's that say they will go to xxx amount and it blew up after six months I would expect full money back or a replacement.

Right now, my little E6400 is running at 3.36 with 0 problem's. :thumbsup:

Thats just it man.... your missing it. They don't say it will go up to lets say 3.06.

It only says up to 2.66, so if you push it beyond that your violating warranty and you've broken your chip. So therefore you can't expect a full money back or replacement. See what i'm saying?

ahaha. The overclocking police is here.

lol I never said you couldn't, I suggested you SHOULDN'T.

And I gave a good reason for it. If you OC your stuff fine.. but if you take it beyond the limits set forth whats its at out of the box then your still breaking their warranty. If you break it doing that then don't commit Fraud by telling them some story about it just failing to get a replacement or get it fixed at the cost of the manufacture..thats it.

Fraud cases every year cost the public Billions of $$$ due to market ups of items to make up for it that the manufactures lose cause of it.

Commit Fraud and I know about it.. I'll turn your butt in, alot of places will offer a Fraud Reward! :thumbsup:

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Ok all this talk bout OC is getting me in the mood, i am all couraged up to do some minor OCing. Can anyone email, PM, me OC guides, like really good ones please. Is it possible to get vids of Youtube as well?

I am aiming to up my 2.66 to a full 3.0ghz.

[=98=]

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

There is plenty of risk as I've said... if you don't care and you fry your card then don't go crying to the manufacture that your card is broken and its there fault and they should fix/replace it. You eat the costs and you purchase a new one. Otherwise you commit fraud if you use any other excuse other than "I don't know what I'm doing and I overclocked my card now its fried".

ahaha. The overclocking police is here.

People, don't listen to Sava. Learn to overclock. It's encouraged by manufacturers, they even provide tools to do it. They have warranties so that they don't have to replace cards that people have been stupid with, but if you learn to overclock well and know the limits, you will always get an RMA on a broken card. However, if you've broken the card by overclocking, then you need to sit down and read a few guides.

Learn to overclock people!

Nearly all chips will run faster than stated (except the dreaded A revisions :|:), so why not squeeze the extra speed out. Buy overclocking by 8800gts, i can play CoD4 at all high with 60fps average as opposed to 30fps average. Before you say the eye doesn't notice over 30fps, having a 60fps average means that when there are bombs going off, choppers around, smoke grenades popping it never dips under 30 fps.

It's the same principle as car tuners. You pay for a part, you should squeeze as much performance out as possible (within reason).

If anyone wants overclocking guides i have some excellent ones. I will help anyone who needs advice as well :)

[[MyIS]Dan]

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

But if you OC them and you burn or mess something up and you then try to commit fraud by doing a RMA for the items cause you claim a defect towards the manufacture then thats wrong and thats my point.

No it's not if I buy one of them CPU's that say they will go to xxx amount and it blew up after six months I would expect full money back or a replacement.

Right now, my little E6400 is running at 3.36 with 0 problem's. :thumbsup:



It's a 100% OC, as they come shiped at 2.13 I think, been running OC'd ever since I got it.

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

I'd rather do it myself and save $40. If the companies are willing to pre overclock their cards and slap a warranty on it then there is obviously no risk in overclocking. The only risk your running is a pc that is maybe a little bit more prone to unstability but as long as your not pushing the cpu/gpu too far and your temperatures are acceptable then you're fine.

You fail to understand that when they " pre overclock their cards and slap a warranty on it" that they have tested them with a certain pre made Bios Flash on the card which controls the fan speed as set by them while also testing the fan to see if it will uphold to the stress of those speeds at long durations..not to mention the cooling solution being used under the HSF is different to allow the card to still run cool enough to sustain those Overclocks right out of the box.

There is plenty of risk as I've said... if you don't care and you fry your card then don't go crying to the manufacture that your card is broken and its there fault and they should fix/replace it. You eat the costs and you purchase a new one. Otherwise you commit fraud if you use any other excuse other than "I don't know what I'm doing and I overclocked my card now its fried".

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Yeah a waste.. cause your paying for a Warranty on the pre-clocked.. not to mention the OCed versions of cards now are only 20-40$ more so big deal..its not going to break you. But if you have to buy another card cause you fried your old one left and your not going to commit Fraud and try to RMA it due to a manufactured defect then your going to fork out all that money again for a new one.

So which is it? Commit Fraud or just spend a few more $$ and get a pre-set card.

I'd rather do it myself and save $40. If the companies are willing to pre overclock their cards and slap a warranty on it then there is obviously no risk in overclocking. The only risk your running is a pc that is maybe a little bit more prone to unstability but as long as your not pushing the cpu/gpu too far and your temperatures are acceptable then you're fine.

Re: Updating my Bios, need some quick tips on how to do it please.

Is this wrong Sava? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...d=6&subid=1093

I would think not.. and how most mobo's advertise there overclocking features I don't think OC'ing is as bad and wrong as your trying to point out, aslong as you keep it within limts your pretty much safe.

If its designed to run at that speed and be advertised at that speed then it should have 3.2 for example on the side of the box and not 2.66. Sorry its wrong no matter how you look at it or how you try to justify it. If you OC a processor or a video card thats fine..do what you want..you paid for it its your property. But if you OC them and you burn or mess something up and you then try to commit fraud by doing a RMA for the items cause you claim a defect towards the manufacture then thats wrong and thats my point.

This only causes the companies to increase prices to make up for the lost funds for repairs/replacements cause of someones careless neglect or torture.

This would be the same as you buying a car advertised at going 90mph yet you constantly run it at 120mph... then the car breaks and you take it back to the dealership for a warranty repair or exchange cause you claim the car has a defect from the factory.